Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-14-2013, 08:32 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
22,632 posts, read 14,945,990 times
Reputation: 15935

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by mohawkx View Post


Do you know why Boehner, Ryan and 75% of the republican party are doing this? Because "Business People" are heavy republican donors. Business doesn't like political uncertainty in Washington. It cost them money. They don't know to either expand or retract. The republicans who have a sense of the playing field beyond a ridged ideology of the tea party know that by providing financial stability in politics will bring in the money they need for the primaries. From now until 2016, the tea party is going to be marginalized by the republican party for expediency and credibility's sake.
I think there is a lot of truth to this. On the other hand I believe the GOP cannot afford to anger it's conservative base (read: Tea Party), so I think they will offer rhetoric and purely symbolic actions to appease this base.

Big business really controls both parties. Candidates need $$$ to win elections. Campaign donations speak loud and clear during elections.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-14-2013, 11:03 PM
 
32,068 posts, read 15,067,783 times
Reputation: 13688
Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeywrenching View Post
Boehner is just proving that he is more of a rino than a conservative.
Boehner is a true republican who never pretended to be a conservative. Calling someone a rino is a name the conservatives came up with. You don't have to be conservative to be a republican though. You guys are bringing the party down.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2013, 08:54 AM
 
59,088 posts, read 27,318,346 times
Reputation: 14285
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
It's not about a "veto proof majority" in the Senate. Harry Reid has already shown that control of the Senate is all that is necessary to move OR stop Legislation and Budgets. He has even removed the Filibuster when he thinks it benefits him.

Obama is welcome to VETO anything he pleases and the Democrats can defend their votes and the VETO - that is something that Harry Reid protects them from now. The Senate is DOA on pretty much everything because Reid controls every move. That is what needs to change and probably will change.

When it does - Harry Reid will be leading the chorus against the type of control that he has exercised for many years. Neither he, nor Obama will enjoy a Senate run by the GOP with all the heads of the Committees also run by the GOP. Don't discount that -
"When it does - Harry Reid will be leading the chorus against the type of control that he has exercised for many years."

Which is EXACTLY what he did when the dems were in the minority.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2013, 09:40 AM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,707,823 times
Reputation: 22474
This is the most irresponsible Congress --- not doing spending cuts with the debt as ridiculously high as it is.

Boehner is a liberal at heart --- or a total wimp. He folded completely, no spending cuts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2013, 09:43 AM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,707,823 times
Reputation: 22474
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taratova View Post
We don't need liberal or moderate Republicans.. the left is too far left and they are all far left as Obama leads this nation into socialism.. We need real Republicans who stand for lowering taxes after the biggest tax hike ever on the American people though Obamacare.
True. When they are no different than the liberals and just as fiscally irresponsible like Boehner has now proven he is --- they might just as well be democrats and stop the fraud of a "two party" option when there really is none.

Americans at least need an option. The liberal Republicans want to spend us into hell just as much as the democrats are doing -- and they're just all about buying themselves votes but doing nothing good for this country.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2013, 11:00 AM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,210,872 times
Reputation: 17209
Poll: Ted Cruz 3rd 'most influential' world leader, behind pope, Obama

Poll: Ted Cruz 3rd 'most influential' world leader, behind pope, Obama | WashingtonExaminer.com

Two other Republicans on Rasmussen’s list, House Speaker John Boehner and newly reelected New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, tied at 3 percent.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2013, 05:52 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
22,632 posts, read 14,945,990 times
Reputation: 15935
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
Poll: Ted Cruz 3rd 'most influential' world leader, behind pope, Obama

Poll: Ted Cruz 3rd 'most influential' world leader, behind pope, Obama | WashingtonExaminer.com

Two other Republicans on Rasmussen’s list, House Speaker John Boehner and newly reelected New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, tied at 3 percent.
I see according to Rasmussen Poll Cruz was a little behind "Some Other Person" and a little above Kate Middleton and Miley Cyrus.

I am genuinely impressed!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
17,823 posts, read 23,455,656 times
Reputation: 6541
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
Gingrich made all sorts of promises to become speaker and then forgot all about those promises also.
Such as? I recall Gingrich's "Contract With America" in 1994, and he kept every promise in that contract in the first 100 days the GOP took control of Congress, and much more. I credit former Rep. Kasich (now Gov. of Ohio) as being chiefly responsible for balancing the budget, not Gingrich.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2013, 06:19 PM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,210,872 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
Such as? I recall Gingrich's "Contract With America" in 1994, and he kept every promise in that contract in the first 100 days the GOP took control of Congress, and much more. I credit former Rep. Kasich (now Gov. of Ohio) as being chiefly responsible for balancing the budget, not Gingrich.
They didn't balance the budget. They stole from Social Security to claim that they balanced the budget.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-15-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Houston
26,979 posts, read 15,892,870 times
Reputation: 11259
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
True. When they are no different than the liberals and just as fiscally irresponsible like Boehner has now proven he is --- they might just as well be democrats and stop the fraud of a "two party" option when there really is none.

Americans at least need an option. The liberal Republicans want to spend us into hell just as much as the democrats are doing -- and they're just all about buying themselves votes but doing nothing good for this country.

The problem is, as Ryan pointed out today on Fox, the Republicans cannot accomplish anything unless they have electoral success in 2014 and 2016. You cannot make radical changes when simply controlling one house of Congress. Let's keep this 2014 election focused on Obamacare, not government shutdowns or debt defaults. Republicans can win on the former, not the latter.

Republicans can win based on this:

Quote:

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 40% of Likely
U.S. Voters now have at least a somewhat favorable opinion of the health care
law, while 56% view it at least somewhat unfavorably. The passion remains on the
side of the opponents. The new findings include 19% with a Very Favorable view
of the law, while 47% have a Very Unfavorable one. (To see survey question
wording, click here.)





Unfavorables are down slightly from 58% two weeks ago,
while favorable reviews are up four points. But the number with a Very
Unfavorable impression is at its highest level measured to date. Positive
impressions of the health care law have fluctuated from a low of 39% to a high
of 47% in regular weekly tracking this
year
. Unfavorable opinions have run from 48% to 58% in that same
period.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:24 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top