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Old 03-07-2014, 09:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by West Coast Republican View Post
Yes genocide has happened in history, unfortunately not everyone has learned from those tragedies, especially not the pro abortionists. If they did, we would not be having this discussion. One day we won't have to either.

Closing down baby killing chambers and providing access to alternatives such as adoption agencies and education about pregnancy would greatly reduce the number of babies being murdered today. The first step is to make it illegal, it's already unconstitutional despite what the evil Supreme Court said. Abortion centers such as Nazi Parenthood need to be seriously reformed and all abortion procedures must stop.

If we took all the money that goes into abortions (its a very expensive procedure) and put it into adoption and family centers, we would have more thaneenough resources for every child to be born and live their life that they have a right to.

One day future generations will look back on this issue as the greatest evil of our time and you and all your pro abortionist friends will be on the wrong side of history just like the Nazis and the Confederacy.

PRO LIFE 4 LIFE (Because saying pro choice 4 life is an oxymoron)
Oh brother.

Sir, over 98.8% of abortions are in the first 21 weeks.

While it is not a money issue, you are free to compare the costs of an abortion vs. raising a low income welfare child for 18 years. The irony of right-wing economics...

 
Old 03-07-2014, 10:10 PM
 
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Tragedy. Abortion is a LEGAL procedure in the USA, I can only hope these draconian laws will one day be repealed.
What is so draconian about wanting abortionists to have admission privileges at a hospital in the event complications occur.

For heaven's sake, my dentist has them.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by West Coast Republican View Post
Yes genocide has happened in history, unfortunately not everyone has learned from those tragedies, especially not the pro abortionists. If they did, we would not be having this discussion. One day we won't have to either.

Closing down baby killing chambers and providing access to alternatives such as adoption agencies and education about pregnancy would greatly reduce the number of babies being murdered today. The first step is to make it illegal, it's already unconstitutional despite what the evil Supreme Court said. Abortion centers such as Nazi Parenthood need to be seriously reformed and all abortion procedures must stop.

If we took all the money that goes into abortions (its a very expensive procedure) and put it into adoption and family centers, we would have more thaneenough resources for every child to be born and live their life that they have a right to.

One day future generations will look back on this issue as the greatest evil of our time and you and all your pro abortionist friends will be on the wrong side of history just like the Nazis and the Confederacy.

PRO LIFE 4 LIFE (Because saying pro choice 4 life is an oxymoron)
It isn't genocide because a collection of parasitic cells growing inside a woman's stomach does not constitute a human life.

As for the bolded comment are you full of nonsense? There are over a million abortions in this country every single year. You think that by taking the resources spent towards abortions and allocating them to child care services we would be able to take care of all those millions of kids? Absolute nonsense. An abortion costs $500. Raising a child from birth to adulthood costs hundreds of thousands. Not to mention that forcing fetuses to be born to parents who don't want them predisposes the future children to crime.

You have stated just fine that you are completely ignorant on this subject and the economics of it.

And as for this "One day future generations will look back on this issue as the greatest evil of our time and you and all your pro abortionist friends will be on the wrong side of history just like the Nazis and the Confederacy."

HAHAHAHAHA! I wonder if the ancient Egyptians felt that way, as abortion was common in that society. Abortions are still happening! It isn't working out for Latin America either, which has the highest abortion rate in the world despite have strict laws outlawing doctors from performing the procedure.

Facts on Induced Abortion Worldwide

Get with the real world dude. Abortion is here to stay. And don't you for a minute act like you give a damn. This is all about the power struggle that conservatives wage against women.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 10:23 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What is so draconian about wanting abortionists to have admission privileges at a hospital in the event complications occur.

For heaven's sake, my dentist has them.
True. People are so entrenched in their beliefs that they are unable to accept even the most common sense rules.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 10:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by CravingMountains View Post
It isn't genocide because a collection of parasitic cells growing inside a woman's stomach does not constitute a human life.

As for the bolded comment are you full of nonsense? There are over a million abortions in this country every single year. You think that by taking the resources spent towards abortions and allocating them to child care services we would be able to take care of all those millions of kids? Absolute nonsense. An abortion costs $500. Raising a child from birth to adulthood costs hundreds of thousands. Not to mention that forcing fetuses to be born to parents who don't want them predisposes the future children to crime.

You have stated just fine that you are completely ignorant on this subject and the economics of it.

And as for this "One day future generations will look back on this issue as the greatest evil of our time and you and all your pro abortionist friends will be on the wrong side of history just like the Nazis and the Confederacy."

HAHAHAHAHA! I wonder if the ancient Egyptians felt that way, as abortion was common in that society. Abortions are still happening! It isn't working out for Latin America either, which has the highest abortion rate in the world despite have strict laws outlawing doctors from performing the procedure.

Facts on Induced Abortion Worldwide

Get with the real world dude. Abortion is here to stay. And don't you for a minute act like you give a damn. This is all about the power struggle that conservatives wage against women.
Babies do not grow in the stomach, and you really can't define a fetus as a parasite unless you extend that definition out to babies, small children, teenagers, young adults, elderly people, and the poor.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 10:32 PM
 
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Babies do not grow in the stomach, and you really can't define a fetus as a parasite unless you extend that definition out to babies, small children, teenagers, young adults, elderly people, and the poor.
No, a fetus, which is a collection of cells draining its host of vital nutrients, can be called a parasite. Babies, small children, etc, are not literally draining the health of a host. As much as parents might want to think they are as kids are expensive, those kids aren't going to burst out of your vagina, ruin your body, and possibly kill you like a fetus will.

Uterus, whatever. I was referring to the stomach as the all encompassing part of your lower abdomen.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 10:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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No, a fetus, which is a collection of cells draining its host of vital nutrients, can be called a parasite. Babies, small children, etc, are not literally draining the health of a host. As much as parents might want to think they are as kids are expensive, those kids aren't going to burst out of your vagina, ruin your body, and possibly kill you like a fetus will.

Uterus, whatever. I was referring to the stomach as the all encompassing part of your lower abdomen.
The stomach is an organ that lies within the abdomen. And babies, if breast fed, continue to drain the mother of nutrients. Children must be supplied with food, water, and shelter, all at the expense of their mother. They also require constant attention, which drains the energy of the mother. The risk of dying during childbirth is very small. When you add up the risks of dying as a result of having children, it will probably even out.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 10:56 PM
 
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49% of all abortion seekers have had at least 1 previous abortion. Do you support abortion as a means of birth control? Yes or no.
I do and see no reason to be ashamed of that. I support abortion. I am pro-abortion. I think more people should have abortions. If all the stupid people who had kids they couldn't raise had instead opted for abortions, inner cities wouldn't be so screwed up.

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Your first sentence is completely jarring and doesn't mesh at all with the 2nd. What gives?
I was trying to irritate the guy I was quoting since he had gone on a long-winded tirade against abortion....

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Babies do not grow in the stomach, and you really can't define a fetus as a parasite unless you extend that definition out to babies, small children, teenagers, young adults, elderly people, and the poor.
a fetus is a parasite and figuratively speaking, so are the rest of your examples.

in a way, aren't all species parasites to the earth?
 
Old 03-07-2014, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Great news! One day they will all be closed and the genocide will end.
What genocide? You mean the right the woman has to do whatever she wants to her body?

The right that you and other straight, white conservatives/republicans can't invade a woman's body and restrict her from doing whatever she wants to do to it?

The right that you don't give a damn about the them once the child is born?

Yeah if there's a genocide going on it's the genocide of women's rights that the republicans/conservatives are leading. Or did what happened in Austin, TX not teach you anything?
 
Old 03-07-2014, 11:03 PM
 
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49% of all abortion seekers have had at least 1 previous abortion. Do you support abortion as a means of birth control? Yes or no.


It doesn't matter because abortion is legal. If you want it to be illegal again then adopt some of these kids. Oh, but there are so many already waiting to be adopted. Good grief, you want them to be born but don't care what happens to them after that Unless you have a solution to kids that are already waiting to be adopted then you really don't have any say.
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