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Old 05-28-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Spokane, WA
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Or how about gang related?
That too. Especially all those Scots/Irish and Norwegian gangs (my ancestors). We're known to be such a violent bunch.

 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I love statistics. How many of those people that murdered someone with a gun, were NRA members?

Any place that breaks down those murders by race of victim and aggressor?
Really? You don't consider a murder a murder unless it fits your criteria for race and NRA membership?
 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I just looked up one on that last that was close to home and it was an accidental discharge by a law enforcement officer.
Shooting At Shooters; 6 Injured At Florida Eatery

The remainder of the list is suspect.

Wow! Even experienced gun owners, like law enforcement, cannot control carnage by guns?

So much for a good guy with a gun..............
 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Since we're talking about statistics and trends....

You know you have a better chance of being struck by lightning, than being shot in a mass shooting, don't you?
 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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Really? You don't consider a murder a murder unless it fits your criteria for race and NRA membership?
No, what he/she is saying is that if you broke it down to who was shooting who, the left would not really have an agenda...just due to the fact most killings would be gang related....

Just like saying...30,000+ people last year were killed with guns....yep...but half were self inflicted...
 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Wow! Even experienced gun owners, like law enforcement, cannot control carnage by guns?

The actual issue is that that incident does not fit the criteria for mass shootings. Use an FBI statistic instead of a lobby group. Professionals vs. amateur hour.
 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:09 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Agreed, then why is everyone focused on the "gun"?
Because he had with him the day of the murders 34 loaded 10-round magazines for his sig sauer and 7 10-round magazines for his glock thus if everything went his way that day, he could have killed 400 innocent people. How many could he have killed with the knives or even his car before it came to an end?

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I love statistics. How many of those people that murdered someone with a gun, were NRA members?
What does it matter? The NRA is the organization that works against any kind of sensible gun control.
 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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Wow! Even experienced gun owners, like law enforcement, cannot control carnage by guns?

Haha...being law enforcement does not equal gun experience....

If that was true, then every 70+ year old should never be in a wreck...cause they are experienced with cars...right...
 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The actual issue is that that incident does not fit the criteria for mass shootings. Use an FBI statistic instead of a lobby group.
So much for the "a good guy with a gun" theory............
 
Old 05-28-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Spokane, WA
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Really? You don't consider a murder a murder unless it fits your criteria for race and NRA membership?
No, I just like to drill down further into statistics like that. Who commits the most murders? Should I really be afraid of the NRA? (I'm not a member).

Why do so many Norwegian and Scots/Irish people commit a lot of crime?

There's lots of death from all sorts of things all over the world. I'd be a basket case If I worried about all of them. That would take a lot of time.
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