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speech control works to keep nazis and KKK and balckpanther and Muslim extremist groups quit also, but at what cost? Our freedom? If you want to live in a police state lock box so you can feel safe, remember most dictator states like Nazi Germany to North Korea are very safe with little to no gun violence. You want to trade your freedom in move to NK but don't aske me to turn this country into a dictator ship so you can feel a bit safer walking down the street.
Don't tell them that! You'll have them climaxing in the office.
Most of them would love living in North Korea... or even under someone like Pol Pot.
Were talking about availability of arms to almost anybody, "stolen guns" being exported to other, often gun-free states and then everyday joes shooting their wives out of jealousy.
That a problem where you are? 'Cause it isn't around here.
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Guns are a public threat, gun control works as evidenced by other industrialized countries such as Germany, Japan, Australia, Canada the UK and many, many others. Gun control works.
DISARMAMENT ILLOGIC
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You cannot use logical arguments with proponents of disarmament.
The reason is simple : either they are covert allies of the predators who benefit from a disarmed prey, OR they are suicidal lemmings seeking to increase the supply of victims for predators.
Pick one: Liars or nutjobs.
Yep. Exactly right.
Logic. Statistics. Reason. None of these work when talking to a gun control advocate because to hold such an opinion is to be lacking in the ability to use these three. Pandora's Box was opened many, many years ago. At this point, to close it will only make things worse. You will never get rid of guns any more than you will get rid of cars... which by the way, kill far more people (and yes, Virginia, as with guns, they do this of their own accord).
I would provide links to debunk it, but that has already been done.
I love the poster who said "Some big cities have higher crime rates than WHOLE countries!" No crap? You are comparing a city with very high concentrations of people to an average that includes cities and rural areas. When you look at a whole country the crime rate will almost invariably be higher in the cities that are contained within the borders of said country... the rural areas drag the average down. This is why you don't compare apples to oranges, or cities to countries. Maybe this concept would make sense if the whole country had the same population density as the cities in question, but I am guessing it is insanely lower.
Seriously, what is the population density of NYC compared to the population density of say Australia, Poland, or even the United States?
Now, I may be a supporter of gun rights, but can y'all separate me in your minds from the filthy, racist, homophobic neocons that have been posting in favor of gun rights? Their thoughts are ill-informed and their thinking process is badly out-dated.
Remember this the next time the gun nuts post a thread to only highlight when guns are used defensively. There is over an order of magnitude more cases of criminal gun use.
You really need to check your defensive gun use stats
The Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council released the results of their research through the CDC last month. Researchers compiled data from previous studies in order to guide future research on gun violence, noting that “almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.” CDC Study: Use of Firearms For Self-Defense is
You don't have to shoot someone to use a gun to defend yourself.
Good job.
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That's 11,268 people killed or injured vs just 331 instances of defensive gun use in the whole damn country. It's a completely different scale.
How many people's lives are saved through defensive driving versus those killed by offensive driving?
Remember this the next time the gun nuts post a thread to only highlight when guns are used defensively. There is over an order of magnitude more cases of criminal gun use.
That's 11,268 people killed or injured vs just 331 instances of defensive gun use in the whole damn country. It's a completely different scale.
Since you're digging into the statistics, figure out how many of those guns were purchased through the normal legal channels and how many of those would have been prevented by any of the plans proposed. The only "gun control" effort that would stop these is "stop and frisk."
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You'll have them climaxing in the office.
