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1.) Out of all the shootings in, say, 2013, how many were one gang member shooting another gang member?
2.) And how many were one person with a criminal record, shooting another person with a criminal record?
(Many gang members don't have criminal records with the police.... yet)
3.) And how many were a criminal in the process of committing another crime (robbery, rape etc.) shooting someone?
4.) And how many were justified cases of self-defense by an innocent person?
5.) And how many were suicides?
If you deleted all those, what you have left, is all the law-abiding people shooting other law-abiding people. These are the cases that might be affected by "tighter gun control laws". My guess is, it will be a relatively small number.
Statistically, it's under 5% before discounting "self defense" shootings.
Shotguns can be had pretty cheap. Good enough for a home defense weapon.
And I encourage them to purchase them if they can, but when you are in serious poverty you have to choose between feeding your kids and a shotgun, usually feeding the kids comes first.
Guns nut love to spout phantom numbers about guns preventing deaths. Few politically spun statistics are as obviously made up/BS as those. Tens of thousands of lives every year are saved because good guys are armed! Let the nonsense begin...
Well, just as they have no way to prove that thousands of lives were saved by people having guns you have no way to prove they weren't. So your contention that few lives were saved due to guns is just as much unsubstantiated nonsense as their contention that many lives were saved.
Remember this the next time the gun nuts post a thread to only highlight when guns are used defensively. There is over an order of magnitude more cases of criminal gun use.
I have maintained from the start, that if all law-abiding adults were allowed to carry weapons, still most of them wouldn't bother.
But crime rates would go way down anyway. Because although the criminals know that most people still aren't carrying, they know that a few in the crowd probably are. Especially in the high-crime area where the criminal hangs out. And so he's less likely to take a fatal chance of mugging or assaulting someone.
I make no exception for anyone due to skin color or whatever. ALL law-abiding adults should be allowed to carry guns. Even if they choose not to, that's up to them.
BTW, many of the "gun control" laws in the country, were put in place to keep guns out of the hands of black people.
Some things don't change much among leftists.
I agree with you completely. If every adult could legally carry, crime rates would plummet.
I agree with you completely. If every adult could legally carry, crime rates would plummet.
Correct. Even though only a few people would actually carry.
The criminals wouldn't know which ones they were. A definite downer when you're about to assault , rob, or rape a stranger. Especially when there are other law-abiding people around.
It's enough to make a criminal who values his ass, change jobs.
Remember this the next time the gun nuts post a thread to only highlight when guns are used defensively. There is over an order of magnitude more cases of criminal gun use.
That's 11,268 people killed or injured vs just 331 instances of defensive gun use in the whole damn country. It's a completely different scale.
Sorry, I will take the FBI stats over the NY Times any day.
Not much point in debunking the misnamed "think4yourself" for the 24th time. As soon as people started questioning his post, he vanished from the thread without replying, and hasn't been seen since.
Correct. Even though only a few people would actually carry.
The criminals wouldn't know which ones they were. A definite downer when you're about to assault , rob, or rape a stranger. Especially when there are other law-abiding people around.
It's enough to make a criminal who values his ass, change jobs.
Exactly!
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Let the nonsense begin...