Some countries are just not capable of governing themselves

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by medellinheel

Wouldnt even be a south korea without the US

Your point?

There would be a South Korea.

Who murdered Kim Koo in cold blood?

Americans.

I guess it serves you right that all those US troops died in the Korean War, but then you really wanted the war....which is why you murdered Koo in cold blood in the first place.

Peace isn't Profitable.

Originally Posted by medellinheel

Missing the point.

Philippines is a 1000 times better than Iraq.

No, you're missing the point.

The US has been in the Philippines since 1898.

Every single thing you touch becomes a freaking disaster.

Originally Posted by medellinheel

When did Iran carry out mass oppressionand genocide on it's own people?

Under British and US rule.

US rule ended in 1979...I'm sure that was long before you were born.

Originally Posted by medellinheel

When have we literally ran another country? Notice that is different than installing local governments etc.

Installing puppet-dictators is the same as running the country. The puppet-dictators do exactly what you tell them to do, or they get murdered or ousted in a coup, and another puppet-dictator is put in their place.

Oh, I'm sorry, who illegally over-threw the Greek government and installed a puppet-dictator?

Americans did. Truman did it.

Who illegally overthrew the puppet-dictatorship in Greece and replaced it with another puppet-dictatorship?

Americans did. LBJ did that in 1967.

Only 8,000 Greeks died during the first month of fighting.

But who cares....they're Greeks and useless since they don't really count as people to Americans.

To an American, the only reason Greeks are allowed to exist on this Earth is so they can buy military hardware that the Greeks don't even need so that Americans can have jobs and strut about pompously proclaiming how wonderful their Way of Life is and how they are entitled to everything on Earth.

Originally Posted by medellinheel

We could have easily stayed in Saigon and ran that country if we wanted.

No, you couldn't.

The economy of Vietnam is growing at 8%-10% annually, which is far more than your economy will ever grow through the end of this Century.

And the reason the Vietnamese are successful in spite of 20 years of US oppression and murder, and in spite of an additional 20 years of US economic and financial sanctions, is precisely because the US isn't running the country.

You've been in Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua for nearly 150 years, and yet Vietnam has a higher standard of living....

....achieved in just the last 30 years.

What an embarrassment to the US.

Originally Posted by medellinheel

You think the Iraqi ppl would be able to defeat and vanquish the USA army?

Lmao

They don't have to vanquish the US military.....they just have to make the US taxpayers suffer $TRILLIONS in losses.

Originally Posted by medellinheel

The Sunnis, Kurds, and Shiias would be the ones to have to work together and compromise.

You just contradicted the entire premise of your thread.

Originally Posted by medellinheel

After a certain amount of time the leaders of each faction will get tired of the West running their country.

Um, you've been running Iraq since you murdered King Faisal II in cold blood back in 1958.

If King Faisal is running Iraq, then King Faisal can nationalize the Anglo-Iraqi Oil Company even though he is not White and even though he is not a Jew or Christian.

The problem is King Faisal wasn't allowed to nationalize the Anglo-Iraqi Oil Company because it is a crime against the American Way of Life and Standard of Living to Nationalize While non-White or Nationalize While Being non-Jew or non-Christian....

....which is why you murdered him in cold blood.

Who do you think paid for your glorious Interstate Highway System?

You didn't pay for it. You could never have afforded it. You got the money by stealing it from the several dozen economic slave colonies you lorded over.

Quit acting like you're special...

Mircea

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Lets stay out of the ME for a few more years. Let 2 groups of Islamic nutjobs go about killing each other. When they are finished and there is hardly anyone left, then we can go in and plant the flag.

[no1brownsfan]

Originally Posted by LordBalfor

The "wanted to" is the KEY PART you are overlooking.
HOW LONG do you think Americans WILL WANT to stay fighting a war that never seems to end? People fighting a guerilla war don't have to WIN, they just have to OUTLAST the stronger foe. We've shown time and time again that we don't WANT a never-ending war. We showed that in Vietnam and we're showing that in Iraq. Why do you expect that to suddenly change?
Your plans and expectation of what the American people will put up with are silly, irrational and unrealistic.

Ken

That is what caused the Soviet Union to finally withdrawl from Afghanistan! Look at the clusterf*** that was Vietnam. We went there under the guise of stopping the spread of communism! Ummmm, yeah.... how did that work out again? It's still a communist country, and we currently TRADE WITH THEM!!! Afghanistan, and Iraq are also clusterf***s!!!!