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Old 07-03-2014, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I would bet in the years to come that the issue of carrying weapons in the US will be re-examined very carefully and the drift will be toward other countries like Australia, etc re carrying weapons. As well as the interpretation of the 2nd amendment itself.
Never hurts to dream the impossible dream I guess.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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What I find dangerous to us all, is putting law abiding citizens at a disadvantage, and at the same time, EMPOWERING criminals, by not allowing good people an effective way to defend theirselves. THAT is what is dangerous to us all.

Anecdotal.

Less than 3% of all concealed carriers are ever involved in criminal activity. In otherwords, letting people carry a weapon for self defense isn't the "danger to us all" that you keep crying about. It isn't a problem in need of fixing. In 1984, TWO states allowed citizens a way to legally cconceal and carry a firearm. 30 years later, all FIFTY states have some form of legal carry on the books, even if that is just symbolic and they never actually issue permits.

The tribe has spoken on this issue, it's over for your side. Turns out, allowing people an effective means to defend themselves is a pretty basic concept.... most people agree with it.

That's ok, your trust and approval is neither required nor desired, sorry.

No one I know of views their weapon as a "toy"

Nope, you're right, it''s not. Who said it was?
Law abiding? Hmmm, prepared to shoot when you "feel" its necessary. Aren't you just itching to do so no matter how much you say otherwise? Just being prepared for the eventuality (in your mind) that you have to (forced, mind you) take action. A form of compensating what you don't have?

Nope, don't think that it is over. Owning a weapon? Sure. Carrying them where ever you please, intimidating whomever you choose? Nope.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Woah, chill. Your post implied that it wasn't against the law to carry into a post office anymore, I was just asking for clarification.

I know we butt heads over cigarettes, but I'm with you on this issue. Save the venom for those that aren't.
Sorry, didn't mean to come off as spewing any kind of venom. Hard to capture the tone of the written word I guess.
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Sorry, didn't mean to come off as spewing any kind of venom. Hard to capture the tone of the written word I guess.
That's ok, I probably jumped a bit more than I should have. This is an intense topic for me as well
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Never hurts to dream the impossible dream I guess.
Do some reading on it. We live in a different world than 200+ years ago. Other countries recognize that. The change is inevitable.
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:05 AM
 
Location: USA
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It's a private business. Just like how they can refuse you service or ask to you leave for coming in topless or without shoes.
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Law abiding? Hmmm, prepared to shoot when you "feel" its necessary. Aren't you just itching to do so no matter how much you say otherwise? Just being prepared for the eventuality (in your mind) that you have to (forced, mind you) take action. A form of compensating what you don't have?
LOL, you just became not worth my time or effort. No one with two brain cells to rub together could take you seriously at this point, and anyone who does is as beyond help as you are.

Nighty night.
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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LOL, you just became not worth my time or effort. No one with two brain cells to rub together could take you seriously at this point, and anyone who does is as beyond help as you are.

Nighty night.
Then explain yourself. And don't come up with self-defense or preparedness. Those are nonsense answers.
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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That's ok, I probably jumped a bit more than I should have. This is an intense topic for me as well
Just glad to see you're on the right side of it!

Now if I could just talk some sense in to you about allowing private businesses owners to make their own decisions when it comes to smoking and e-cigs

{ just kidding, I know that'll never happen }
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Then explain yourself. And don't come up with self-defense or preparedness. Those are nonsense answers.
I don't know what you are looking for me to say.....

If there were no cause to prepare for something, if there was no possibility that I would ever have to defend myself, if we lived in a crimeless world, then of course I wouldn't carry a gun, because that is the only reason to carry one.
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