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Old 11-23-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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No deliberate wrongdoing doesn't say anything about Obama's effectiveness. Obama was ineffective, dropped the ball, absent.
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Old 11-23-2014, 12:21 PM
 
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No deliberate wrongdoing doesn't say anything about Obama's effectiveness. Obama was ineffective, dropped the ball, absent.
In your opinion. An opinion that isn't shared by any of the reports that have come out of the investigations.

So do you think that that low opinion of the president's effectiveness warrants squandering yet more time and money on yet another investigation, when there are real issues--not opinions, but real issues that affect millions of Americans--that Congress could focus on instead? Because apparently, Republicans can't think of a single other important thing they can spend a little bit of their very limited time in session on except suing the president for doing what every president before him has done.

Talk about being ineffective, dropping the ball, being absent from their duties...
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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The little peons who lived the stand down directive are just run over and ignored.. we know how that goes.

Bombshell Claim: Security Operators on the Ground in Benghazi Say They Were Told to
They weren't ignored. Their testimony was taken as was the Chief of Station in Benghazi. The conclusion from those who heard all the testimony was that the precautions taken by the Chief of Station in Benghazi were reasonable.
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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The House Intelligence Committee, led by Republicans, has concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, said Rep. Mike Thompson of St. Helena, the second-ranking Democrat on the committee.

Thompson said the report "confirms that no one was deliberately misled, no military assets were withheld and no stand-down order (to U.S. forces) was given.

House panel: No administration wrongdoing in Benghazi attack - SFGate

Meanwhile, the GOP House leadership has given the House Committee on Benghazi $3.3 million of our taxpayer dollars so they can continue the "investigation." Hearings resume in September. Because, you know, there's nothing of importance happening in the country that needs their attention.

This is what gerrymandered districts gets us. We have at least two more years of this nonsense.
Meanwhile, Lois Lerner just found more than 30,000 emails.
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Old 11-23-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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They weren't ignored. Their testimony was taken as was the Chief of Station in Benghazi. The conclusion from those who heard all the testimony was that the precautions taken by the Chief of Station in Benghazi were reasonable.
Senator Graham thinks there is something wrong with this point. I would not dismiss a back room deal on this subject.
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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Senator Graham thinks there is something wrong with this point. I would not dismiss a back room deal on this subject.
I understand Graham is calling the report garbage, but can you point to Graham criticizing the Station Chief in Benghazi for the 15 minute delay in sending a team to the mission.
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:20 PM
 
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Weren't the people who issued the (nothing here to see folks, move along) report on the Intelligence Committee?
The R chairman and D ranking member are among only 8 members of Congress who get briefed on secret operations like CIA in Benghazi.

Consider the standard they must have for 'failure' --- The Intel Community didn't know the attack was coming. Success ?

The IC didn't know for 14 days after the attack that there weren't protests at the consulate --- Success ?

The WH initial narrative on the attacks was 'not fully accurate.' Success ?

There is so much Failure in the report text, it had to be a great challenge to turn the report into a tale of success.
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Old 11-23-2014, 04:18 PM
 
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In your opinion. An opinion that isn't shared by any of the reports that have come out of the investigations.

So do you think that that low opinion of the president's effectiveness warrants squandering yet more time and money on yet another investigation, when there are real issues--not opinions, but real issues that affect millions of Americans--that Congress could focus on instead? Because apparently, Republicans can't think of a single other important thing they can spend a little bit of their very limited time in session on except suing the president for doing what every president before him has done.

Talk about being ineffective, dropping the ball, being absent from their duties...
This is it. The fact that the attack occurred post 9-11, in Libya, which is Al Qaeda territory, and your attitude is so what? So Hillary's failure is so what?

There was no security. So what? It's Libya. It's going to get attacked. Duh. What do you want me to do about it? Get over it.

Indeed. What should we expect?
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Old 11-23-2014, 04:26 PM
 
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This is it. The fact that the attack occurred post 9-11, in Libya, which is Al Qaeda territory, and your attitude is so what? So Hillary's failure is so what?

There was no security. So what? It's Libya. It's going to get attacked. Duh. What do you want me to do about it? Get over it.

Indeed. What should we expect?
No, that's not my attitude. It was a tragedy, no doubt about it.

Bad things happen in foreign embassies. They have in the past, and they undoubtedly will in the future. Bad things happened at embassies under both Republican and Democratic administrations. The difference here is that never before has one party dragged the dead through Congress for two years in an attempt to score political points off the tragedy, which is exactly what the GOP is doing here.

It's unconscionable that they are using the deaths of four Americans for purely political gain, but after watching them do this again and again on issue after issue, to paraphrase you, "what else should we expect" from the GOP?

I expect nothing productive from them, which is a good thing, because that's probably exactly what we're in for in the next two years. Nothing productive.
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Old 11-23-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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No deliberate wrongdoing doesn't say anything about Obama's effectiveness. Obama was ineffective, dropped the ball, absent.
Exactly..

Did the House Panel conclude it was over a video? If not, what the hell is the left cheering over?
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