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Old 11-24-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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The House Intelligence Committee, led by Republicans, has concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, said Rep. Mike Thompson of St. Helena, the second-ranking Democrat on the committee.

Thompson said the report "confirms that no one was deliberately misled, no military assets were withheld and no stand-down order (to U.S. forces) was given.

House panel: No administration wrongdoing in Benghazi attack - SFGate

Meanwhile, the GOP House leadership has given the House Committee on Benghazi $3.3 million of our taxpayer dollars so they can continue the "investigation." Hearings resume in September. Because, you know, there's nothing of importance happening in the country that needs their attention.

This is what gerrymandered districts gets us. We have at least two more years of this nonsense.
What "wrong doing" was there supposed to be?

Being incompetent, by reducing security, ignoring terrorists attacks, not having a response plan, the Preezy ignoring the entire attack by going off to bed not knowing if our people were alive or dead, and then jetting off to a fund raiser the very next day, claiming a video was the driver behind a protest that went badly, etc.... Those are not wrong doing per se, they show a lack of character, poor judgment, deceitful conduct, and gross incompetence and ineptitude, but since when are these punishable offenses under our laws?
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:20 AM
 
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They could have saved their millions of dollars because we all know the government never finds itself guilty..EVER.
You are incorrect. They could have saved OUR millions of dollars.
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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Congressman Darrell Issa (R-Munchkinland) has made all the political hay out of this so-called investigation; and there is nothing more to be gained by kicking a dead horse.
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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The talking points chose one side of the conflicting reports --- the side blaming the attacks on spontaneous protests/the video rather than a planned terrorist attack. By the time of Rice's tv appearances the evidence was mounting that it was a terrorist attack, not a spontaneous protest run amuck. How much of the new intel Rice was told is still unknown.
In my opinion, the initial talking points tried to cover all bases. The analysts didn't take one side or draw a specific conclusion, but blended together the conflicting reports. The talking points and Susan Rice both prefaced the assessments as not being final and acknowledged the presence of extremists elements with heavy weapons who attacked the facilities.

By the time of Susan Rice's appearances the CIA had not changed their initial assessment.
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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This would be a more accurate headline:

House Panel: Administration Bungled Benghazi; Nothing Illegal Found
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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No wrong doing? Well, except for the gun running which caused the entire mess.

But guns are bad only when the other side is promoting them. Fast and Furious good. Open carry bad.
The HPSCI report claims that there was no "gun running" by the CIA in Libya. The report does claim that the CIA was gathering intelligence on foreign entities shipping arms to Syria.
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Old 11-24-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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In my opinion, the initial talking points tried to cover all bases. The analysts didn't take one side or draw a specific conclusion, but blended together the conflicting reports. The talking points and Susan Rice both prefaced the assessments as not being final and acknowledged the presence of extremists elements with heavy weapons who attacked the facilities.

By the time of Susan Rice's appearances the CIA had not changed their initial assessment.
She did everything she could to blame the video and exclude a planned attack. Here's one of many examples:

"But we don’t see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack."

There were signs of it being a planned attack.

Another:

"Ms. RICE: I have been to Libya and walked the streets of Benghazi myself. And despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the United States is extremely popular in Libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for Ambassador Stevens and his colleagues from the government, from people is evidence of that."

If Rice wasn't aware of the intel conflicting with her false narrative, people above her intentionally let her make a liar out of herself.
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Old 11-24-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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She did everything she could to blame the video and exclude a planned attack. Here's one of many examples:

"But we don’t see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack."

There were signs of it being a planned attack.

Another:

"Ms. RICE: I have been to Libya and walked the streets of Benghazi myself. And despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the United States is extremely popular in Libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for Ambassador Stevens and his colleagues from the government, from people is evidence of that."

If Rice wasn't aware of the intel conflicting with her false narrative, people above her intentionally let her make a liar out of herself.
Once again, let's spend millions more American taxpayer dollars and waste many more hours because Republicans don't like the talking points. And no doubt you feel this is a good use of Congress' time and our money.
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Old 11-24-2014, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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She did everything she could to blame the video and exclude a planned attack. Here's one of many examples:

"But we don’t see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack."

There were signs of it being a planned attack.

Another:

"Ms. RICE: I have been to Libya and walked the streets of Benghazi myself. And despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the United States is extremely popular in Libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for Ambassador Stevens and his colleagues from the government, from people is evidence of that."

If Rice wasn't aware of the intel conflicting with her false narrative, people above her intentionally let her make a liar out of herself.
The narrative wasn't created by Rice. What was the CIA telling people in Washington?

From the unedited CIA talking points.

We believe based on currently available information that the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protest at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex.

The crowd almost certainly was a mix of individuals from across many sectors of Libyan society. That being said, we do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al_Qa'ida participated in the attack
.

Susan Rice repeated that assessment.

Rice on ABC.

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.
We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.
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Old 11-24-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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She did everything she could to blame the video and exclude a planned attack. Here's one of many examples:

"But we don’t see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack."

There were signs of it being a planned attack.

Another:

"Ms. RICE: I have been to Libya and walked the streets of Benghazi myself. And despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the United States is extremely popular in Libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for Ambassador Stevens and his colleagues from the government, from people is evidence of that."

If Rice wasn't aware of the intel conflicting with her false narrative, people above her intentionally let her make a liar out of herself.
Just a "handful of extremists?" So Rice thinks 90% or more were just peaceful YouTube protesters eh?
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