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Old 08-27-2014, 08:34 AM
 
Location: DC
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Even the peer reviewed studies by the believers have turned out to either be wrong or not actually peer reviewed. They have made a sham out of the entire peer review process. There is no question that those pushing this mumbo jumbo AGW crap has done a lot of damage to science.
LOL you obviously don't read the studies. But you haven't complied with my request for a peer reviewed study showing AGW isn't happening. Is that because there is no science to support your rant?

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Old 08-27-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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I fear we will be in that familiar too little too late scenario in the not to distant future.
If you look at what the states are doing in the electrical sector, I think you'll be reassured that effective action is taking place and substantial amounts of renewable capacity is being added. The electric generation resource in the US is huge and it will take a couple of generations to phase out all the old polluting plants, but we are moving at a pace that will accomplish what we now believe is necessary. On the transportation side all one has to do is look as success stories like Tesla and natural gas vehicles, to see the effectiveness of the federal program to transition to better energy sources for transportation.
 
Old 08-27-2014, 08:43 AM
 
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Please post some science that demonstrates anthropogentic climate change is happening. PROOF, not conjecture.
There is no "proof" in science only evidence.

 
Old 08-27-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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I hope no science is ever accepted by the ENTIRE scientific community. We always want people working on other theories. That's how science advances. The question is how much consensus is required before we develop policies to deal with our best understanding of the problem. We have more than enough.

Fortunately you "deniers" are busy looking for data inconsistencies while we "believers" are busy writing law and regulation to mitigate AGW. The "AGW isn't happening" train left to station about a decade ago. We are phasing out coal-fire generation plants, reducing gasoline consumption, and the most exciting automobile to come along is decades is electric powered.

Keep debating. We will keep regulating.
Regulating over theory and not fact.

At the expense of the people over theory that isn't remotely proven.

You have half baked studies that a bunch of people signed off on but it STILL ISN'T PROVEN!!!!!!!
 
Old 08-27-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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Regulating over theory and not fact.

At the expense of the people over theory that isn't remotely proven.

You have half baked studies that a bunch of people signed off on but it STILL ISN'T PROVEN!!!!!!!
And 100 years from now your compatriots will remain unconvinced. We still have people who believe the world is flat. You are free to believe your story of what is happening. You aren't free to stop our government from taking action to mitigate climate change. You should learn to deal with your disappointment.
 
Old 08-27-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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And 100 years from now your compatriots will remain unconvinced. We still have people who believe the world is flat. You are free to believe your story of what is happening. You aren't free to stop our government from taking action to mitigate climate change. You should learn to deal with your disappointment.
And yours when what you have been fed doesn't come true and all the money you and your ilk have robbed will be for nothing.
 
Old 08-27-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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The Australian Bureau of Meteorology has been caught red-handed manipulating temperature data to show "global warming" where none actually exists.

At Amberley, Queensland, for example, the data at a weather station showing 1 degree Celsius cooling per century was "homogenized" (adjusted) by the Bureau so that it instead showed a 2.5 degrees warming per century.

At Rutherglen, Victoria, a cooling trend of -0.35 degrees C per century was magically transformed at the stroke of an Australian meteorologist's pen into a warming trend of 1.73 degrees C per century.

This is a global problem. Earlier this year, Breitbart reported that similarly dishonest adjustments had been made to temperature records by NASA and NOAA. Similarly implicated are the UK temperature records of the Met Office Hadley Centre and at Phil "Climategate" Jones's disgraced Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia.

Australian Bureau of Meteorology accused of Criminally Adjusted Global Warming
This is how ten years in-a-row with cooler summers is being characterized by the AGW hoaxers as proof of catastrophic man-made global warming, and 'oh my god were all going to die.'
 
Old 08-27-2014, 09:10 AM
 
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LOL you obviously don't read the studies. But you haven't complied with my request for a peer reviewed study showing AGW isn't happening. Is that because there is no science to support your rant?
What you are asking is for a study that proves Yeti's do not exist. I do not have to prove what isn't happening isn't happening.
 
Old 08-27-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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And 100 years from now your compatriots will remain unconvinced. We still have people who believe the world is flat. You are free to believe your story of what is happening. You aren't free to stop our government from taking action to mitigate climate change. You should learn to deal with your disappointment.
Lol....the government has done next to nothing and the ones that have are reversing courses. I think your concern is a bit misplaced.
 
Old 08-27-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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And yours when what you have been fed doesn't come true and all the money you and your ilk have robbed will be for nothing.
Not all for nothing, we will have dirtier clothes from these crappy energy efficient washing machines and more people dead as a result of lighter cars that were built to satisfy CAFE standards, and not safety. Oh, and we will all be poorer because of artificially high energy costs, with less people able to find jobs.
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