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Well we knowhow you feel about the pipe line. Please quite hugging your tree for a moment!We have thousands of miles of pipe in the US and Canada.
If it come down to a National Emergency this would come into play. Alternative Fuel sources. We are getting there , but not there.
I have not seen a Hybrid car that I would actually put money down.
Solar does not even come close and is regulated in keeping your gate operating in a outage.
Maybe in 20 years the technogies will be there, but now we are very much a Oil country and get used to it.
Yes I feel the pipeline would be absolutely useless to us and i don't care if we had a gazillion miles of pipeline in this country. Why should we have a pipeline built for the benefit of a CANADIAN OIL COMPANY when the oil companies we have in this country can't even keep their refineries from leaking ? And why would you think I'm a tree hugger because i think the tired old meme or drill baby drill is stupid ? So because you don't see a hybrid car you like you don't think one is any good ?? Not everyone wants a gas guzzling pickup truck some people actually want value for their money. Checkout tesla cars they're very nice and they've been coming down in price as well hopefully we'll get more companies like tesla
HOW DOES A CANADIAN OIL PIPELINE THAT WILL BE SHIPPED TO CHINA MAKE US MORE SECURE ????? What would make us more secure is if we started actually investing money into alternative energies and weening ourselves from oil and other petroleum based products. Than we could perhaps stop doing business with Saudi Arabia
Do you know for a fact that all the crude oil coming from Canada will be shipped to China? Are you 100 percent certain of that? Perhaps some thorough research on the topic will lead you to a different conclusion. I find it hard to believe that the 3.25 million barrels of oil per day your country imports from Canada is all refined and exported and none of it is used for domestic consumption.... No doubt - some does reach foreign lands but by and large most is used for American consumption - a nation that still has one of the largest consumption levels in the world.
Read this article in the WSJ
Of the 3.25 million barrels of oil per day the U.S currently imports from Canada only 25K barrels are exported to foreign lands.... Granted, within 2 years it could reach 500K barrels of oil per day but do the math - still substantially less than used for domestic consumption.
As for alternative energies - really good thing to do actually.. The environment will thank us all.. The U.S produces about 8-9 million barrels of oil per day - yet it consumes 18-19 million barrels.. The United States consumes more oil than any other country except China.. It will take some radical changes in your consumption habits to ween yourself off oil.. Are you willing and able to do this.. Taking into account that oil isn't just used to fuel up your car btw.
It's a good example of politicians spinning words, luing and misleading their supporters by offering all kinds of numbers to support their case. You can see people inhale and repeat every word as long as it supports their side of the argument. sigh....
Do you know for a fact that all the crude oil coming from Canada will be shipped to China? Are you 100 percent certain of that? Perhaps some thorough research on the topic will lead you to a different conclusion. I find it hard to believe that the 3.25 million barrels of oil per day your country imports from Canada is all refined and exported and none of it is used for domestic consumption.... No doubt - some down reach foreign lands but by and large most is used for American consumption - a nation that still has one of the largest consumption levels of oil in the world.
As for alternative energies - really good thing to do actually.. The environment will thank us all.. The U.S produces about 8-9 million barrels of oil per day - yet it consumes 18-19 million barrels.. The United States consumes more oil than any other country except China.. It will take some radical changes in your consumption habits to ween yourself off oil.. Are you willing and able to do this.. Taking into account that oil isn't just used to fuel up your car btw.
1) i don't have a car i live in nyc and take the train which is run by electricity, 2)Even if some of the oil was sold to the u.s. do you really think they would give any to us at some sort of discount ?? Do any of the american oil company conglomerates give us a discount when they start drilling off the gulf coast of mexico ? And why would you find it hard to believe that 3.25 millions barrels of oil would be given to us ? Oil companies are about profit if they chinese want it badly they will pay for it, and it's not only china that uses more than us japan is heavily reliant on them as well. The only reason europe isn't is because they have russia they have to deal with. And yes i am willing to ween myself of oil and petroleum based products if someone can make a viable option i'd be happy with it.
1) i don't have a car i live in nyc and take the train which is run by electricity, 2)Even if some of the oil was sold to the u.s. do you really think they would give any to us at some sort of discount ?? Do any of the american oil company conglomerates give us a discount when they start drilling off the gulf coast of mexico ? And why would you find it hard to believe that 3.25 millions barrels of oil would be given to us ? Oil companies are about profit if they chinese want it badly they will pay for it, and it's not only china that uses more than us japan is heavily reliant on them as well. The only reason europe isn't is because they have russia they have to deal with. And yes i am willing to ween myself of oil and petroleum based products if someone can make a viable option i'd be happy with it.
Currently only 25K barrels per day of the 3.25 million barrels of oil per day you import is shipped outside the U.S...Granted, within two years that could rise to 500K per day but that is still far and away lower than your consumption.
Its great you take the train - but are you sure you don't consume oil for other purposes.. As I mentioned before, Americans would need to radically change there consumption habits and fundamentally change their way of life quickly if they don't want to rely on foreign (including Canadian oil)..
I'd love to live in a world where we aren't damaging the environment but I live in reality not a fairy tale.. Most people need oil - they need to drive their cars to work and to fly and to use a plethora of oil based products.. It is what it is!
Do you know for a fact that all the crude oil coming from Canada will be shipped to China? Are you 100 percent certain of that? Perhaps some thorough research on the topic will lead you to a different conclusion. I find it hard to believe that the 3.25 million barrels of oil per day your country imports from Canada is all refined and exported and none of it is used for domestic consumption.... No doubt - some does reach foreign lands but by and large most is used for American consumption - a nation that still has one of the largest consumption levels in the world.
Tar sand oil is different. That oil is very heavy, dirty, and very expensive to refine enough to meet EPA sulfur regulations. Could the tar sand oil be used? Yes, but it makes more sense to sell that oil to a country with less stringent regulations.
Tar sand oil is different. That oil is very heavy, dirty, and very expensive to refine enough to meet EPA sulfur regulations. Could the tar sand oil be used? Yes, but it makes more sense to sell that oil to a country with less stringent regulations.
Great and at the end of the day the U.S uses 97 percent of the oil it imports from Canada for domestic consumption..
We can talk about tar sand oil being dirty and a pain and expensive to refine all we want but truth is at the end of the day most of it is consumed by Americans to meet demand. The only way you are going to change it collectively as a nation is to radically shift your consumption of oil.. The choice is ultimately up to the U.S as a nation.. Has nothing to do with Canada.
Currently only 25K barrels per day of the 3.25 million barrels of oil per day you import is shipped outside the U.S...Granted, within two years that could rise to 500K per day but that is still far and away lower than your consumption.
Its great you take the train - but are you sure you don't consume oil for other purposes.. As I mentioned before, Americans would need to radically change there consumption habits and fundamentally change their way of life quickly if they don't want to rely on foreign (including Canadian oil)..
I'd love to live in a world where we aren't damaging the environment but I live in reality not a fairy tale.. Most people need oil - they need to drive their cars to work and to fly and to use a plethora of oil based products.. It is what it is!
Ok, so why are we getting oil from canada and still importing oil from OPEC countries ? Also would the pipeline actually do anything for us considering we already get oil from canada? Also the oil we get from canada is what would be called "dirty" oil
Currently only 25K barrels per day of the 3.25 million barrels of oil per day you import is shipped outside the U.S...Granted, within two years that could rise to 500K per day but that is still far and away lower than your consumption.
Its great you take the train - but are you sure you don't consume oil for other purposes.. As I mentioned before, Americans would need to radically change there consumption habits and fundamentally change their way of life quickly if they don't want to rely on foreign (including Canadian oil)..
I'd love to live in a world where we aren't damaging the environment but I live in reality not a fairy tale.. Most people need oil - they need to drive their cars to work and to fly and to use a plethora of oil based products.. It is what it is!
I think the point is what they would do with the oil coming through Keystone pipeline.
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