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There's no doubt that inequality is a reality in this country. Are conservatives concerned about it?
That fact that you started this thread is every reason to doubt.
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Originally Posted by Iamme73
conservatives don't give a damn about wealth or income inequality.
I predict you both will employ one or more of the following fallacies in your propaganda and disinformation campaign:
Affirming the Consequent
Appeal to Authority
Appeal to Consequence
Appeal to Emotions
Avoiding the Issue
Avoiding the Question
Confirmation Bias
Equivocation
False Analogy
False Cause
False Dilemma
Faulty Comparison
Group Think
Intensional
Is-Ought
Lying
Misrepresentation
Non Sequitur
Prejudicial Language
Proof Surrogate
Red Herring
Scare Tactic
Slanting
Straw Man
Suppressed Evidence
Willed ignorance
We should probably start a pool to see how many times our distinguished propagandists mislead forum members by equivocating Income and Wealth, and then a separate pool for equivocating Earned Income and Unearned Income.
Another pool we can have is how many times will they avoid using a neutral data source, like the US government?
Oh, and the "definitions." They will, of course, throw out lots of feel-good stuff, like "Living Wage" and then waste Eons trying to avoid defining it objectively in no uncertain terms.
As a conservative, I am concerned about inequality in the sense that the middle class has been losing ground and the only winners are the very wealthy and the dependent poor.
Why has the middle class been losing ground?
The first reason is that women entered the work force en masse starting in the late 1970s. The available supply of labor almost doubled, which meant that the cost of labor (wages and salaries) was cut roughly in half. Instead of a husband supporting an entire family, we now have husband and wife working to make what the husband made by himself in the 1950s and '60s.
Next, because people tend to pair up with their social and financial equals, you have the phenomenon of -- for example -- a doctor and a lawyer getting married, each earning a very high salary, while two low-paid individuals marry, each earning a very low salary.
The high-paid couple -- both having very demanding professions -- are less likely to have children, and therefore have more money to spend on things like housing, cars, etc.
This drives up the cost of real estate and other consumer items, making the lower paid couple poorer as a result. Especially if that lower paid couple has children to take care of.
Next, we have the down-sizing and merging of corporations in the 1980s and 90s, with efficiency experts looking for ways to cut jobs and salaries to the greatest extent possible while increasing productivity.
Next, we have automation replacing human labor.
Next, we have "globalization," which means good jobs get off-shored to other countries and Americans have to compete with Third World labor that can be paid far less and still lead a comfortable life in less expensive countries.
Now add 40 million legal immigrants to the U.S. over the last 50 years, plus another 10 -20 million illegal immigrants, all willing to live three families to a house and accept very low pay for jobs in construction, etc., or even setting up their own contracting businesses and underbidding American contractors, and it becomes clear that the trend in this country is to become another Third World country without a significant middle class.
If that happens, democracy will come to an end and be replaced by tyranny.
In sum, we as a country have cheapened labor and destroyed jobs for our own citizens. Corporations and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce love this. But there is no reason why Americans in general should.
In recent years, we've even heard about jobs "Americans won't do." Of course they won't do them if they can collect welfare, which a lot of them do. And why should they do them if they don't pay enough?
Politically speaking, the Republicans want cheap labor for their big business friends, and the Democrats see poor unskilled immigrants as potential Democrat voters.
As a conservative, I am disgusted with both parties on this issue.
My proposals:
1) We need to have a moratorium on legal immigration and militarize the borders to stop illegal immigration.
2) We need to have mandatory e-verify and maybe even a forgery-proof, biometric national ID card for legal citizens.
3) We need to change our tax policy to reward companies that create and keep jobs in America for Americans, and punish companies that don't.
4) We need to recognize the destructive effects on the family (particularly the children) of both spouses having to work.
5) We need to replace population growth through immigration with having our own children in stable, secure homes.
These proposals would, of course, offend both Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives, but they need to be embraced nevertheless.
There's no doubt that inequality is a reality in this country. Are conservatives concerned about it?
Inequality is part of life. We were never equal. It is a case of promotion or success for the fittest. Doest not have to be income focused which is part of the problem being perpetuated by posts like yours.
yeah money the root of all evil! .....I guess if you take away the wealth of your relatives all they will be are miserable poor people with terrible personalities who would be living their lives on welfare and handouts.
at least the way they are now they are not sucking off the taxpayers and are not unproductive leaches of society your solution is to change your cell number and don't invite them to your house.....problem solved!
Well, unlike many CDers, I'm not too upset about most welfare recipients. Why? What they get in tax payer money is a minuscule amount compared to what the DoD gets, for starters.
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