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The birth rate differential (those receiving public assistance compared to those not) has been static over the time the Census has reported them. I've posted them complete with links to the Census report data.
You ignored most of my reply.... I guess you're logic wasn't that strong....
Birth rates of different income groups change.
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Not when an increasingly larger percentage of the population requires public assistance to survive. How is that paid for? How is that sustainable?
Its sustainable if you change the way we tax and hand out social services and entitlements. You're whole basis of reasoning is assuming past or current rates are constants and extrapolating. Your whole notion of cause and effect is flawed or your trying to make the data fit your ideology. Want to give it another shot.
Has it completely escaped your attention that the U.S. with its highly progressive tax system also has very high income inequality? There's a reason for that. I'll elaborate if you don't get it.
You did early and you ignored my reply. Your notion of cause and effect is not correct.
And when one's means won't even cover the price of the basic necessities?
OH THAT'S RIGHT! Pool resources from 5 or 6 people and live together. Wow you have all the answers. We shouldn't pay people enough to even pay for basics. No, we should pay them as little as possible and then tell them to pair up with roommates. TOTALLY LOGICAL.
I'm getting close to done with this conversation.
Man you are missing the point. We are talking about lazy and greedy people (the same people with both problems) There are way too many Americans that are NOT going to work hard. When the going gets tough, then I want welfare. This problem is compounded by liberal politicians who entice this type of behavior in return for votes. I'll give you free stuff if you vote for me. Why can't dems tell people to get back to work? If JFK were around he would have to switch to the GOP.
Man you are missing the point. We are talking about lazy and greedy people (the same people with both problems) There are way too many Americans that are NOT going to work hard. When the going gets tough, then I want welfare. This problem is compounded by liberal politicians who entice this type of behavior in return for votes. I'll give you free stuff if you vote for me. Why can't dems tell people to get back to work? If JFK were around he would have to switch to the GOP.
No were not talking about lazy and greedy people. At least not in this thread. The thread title is about the 50% of the people in this country who don't pay federal income taxes. I've put up a breakdown of those bottom 50% before but you righties conveniently ignore them due to blind hatred.
From the US census. If you need a link, I'll get it again.
23 percent of the population are children.
14.5% of those bottom 50% are retired people who paid taxes all their working life.
19% of those people are legally disabled.
Now there may be a very small percentage of those people who are lazy and greedy but you seem to want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Are you gonna try and tell me that that whole group of "bottom 50% are lazy and greedy?
No were not talking about lazy and greedy people. At least not in this thread. The thread title is about the 50% of the people in this country who don't pay federal income taxes. I've put up a breakdown of those bottom 50% before but you righties conveniently ignore them due to blind hatred.
From the US census. If you need a link, I'll get it again.
23 percent of the population are children.
14.5% of those bottom 50% are retired people who paid taxes all their working life.
19% of those people are legally disabled.
Now there may be a very small percentage of those people who are lazy and greedy but you seem to want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Are you gonna try and tell me that that whole group of "bottom 50% are lazy and greedy?
Really?????????
it seems like you are stuck on the number (50) The OP probably didn't even know the actual number (it could be 45, or 55?) So, to nitpick the 50% part of the discussion is going off into the woods IMO.
FYI: 42.8% of all statistics are just made up on the spot.
it seems like you are stuck on the number (50) The OP probably didn't even know the actual number (it could be 45, or 55?) So, to nitpick the 50% part of the discussion is going off into the woods IMO.
FYI: 42.8% of all statistics are just made up on the spot.
Well, with all due respect, your posts on the subject try to paint a picture of lazy, greedy people not contributing to the national good and that you're supporting them at your expense. I'm here to post counter facts that demonstrate that that image you wish to portray is absolutely untrue.
Frankly, the OP just made a claim and offered no links or facts to validate any part of anything he said. Now you come in claiming that the bottom 50% are lazy greedy people who suck off welfare.
I'm here to post actual facts and irrefutable links that prove you and the OP wrong on all counts. USA QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
23 percent of the population are children.
14.5% of those bottom 50% are retired people who paid taxes all their working life.
19% of those people are legally disabled.
Now I'll ask again for you to validate the statement you made that the bottom 50% are lazy, greedy leeches on welfare.
Do you want to start a thread on lazy greedy individuals abusing the social safety nets, I'l be glad to participate.
President Obama wants to help America write a "new future" where middle-class economics means giving everyone a fair shot at life -- including free college, free childcare, free paid leave, free health care.
Fair share? Are they not paid an honest wage for the work that they do? Are you suggesting that doctors and cashiers should be paid the same?
My employer nets $3M a year. His gross payroll is $500K. All employees are paid within 25 cents per hour above minimum wage.
I report, you decide.
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