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Old 03-25-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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Helps fund their medical care when they will need it since they did not take personal responsibility for themselves.
Why not pay cash? You assume that people without insurance cannot pay...


 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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Helps fund their medical care when they will need it since they did not take personal responsibility for themselves.
30 million WILL GO WITHOUT, and the sad part is, they will pay the tax, and ACA is STILL going to add over $1T to the debt.

The ridiculous thing is the more that choose to not pay the fine, the higher the amount will be added to the debt, thus making the claim that it would reduce the deficit completely laughable.

You guys bought it though.. hahahaha
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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Since when is it against the law to pay out of pocket for your health care? Who or what is stopping Cruz from paying for his and his wife's healthcare without the aid of the current health care plan that he's trying to abolish?

Since, if you do not obtain an Obamacare APPROVED plan, you are subject to TAX Penalties...the IRS can penalize you for failure to pay taxes, up to and including putting you in jail. Federal Employees' health plans are from Obamacare. Those are the only plans available in DC.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:07 AM
 
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He, like anybody else, could go out on the market and buy HC coverage. No one has to choose from the HC Exchange.
Really - You MUST purchase Obamacare APPROVED policies (you can't keep your plan, even if you like it). Care to identify what Obama approved plans are available in DC?
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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The majority of Americans saw through the rabid right's attempt to spin and put the blame for the shutdown squarely on the GOP. And one of the problems in Congress right now is that two brain cells are about all most Tea Partiers possess.
The "majority of American" who are brainwashed lemmings that get their "news" from Comedy Central and MSNBC. The rest of us actually exercise our brain cells and learn the truth.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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I Believe HeyJude514s post 225 sums it up rather accurately, . basically it was repeal Obamacare or we gonna have a hissy fit and shut down the government
It was basically, you fund this one sided government MANDATE or we won't fund the government...and it will be shut down...and our lapdog MSM will report it that way so low info voters will repeat the lie until they believe it.
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Bull spit. He is not only following the Federally MANDATED OBAMACARE requirement, he is going against the "do as I say" crowd and forfeiting the subsidy that democrats voted for themselves even though they earn over $170K a year. Cruz will pay what other Americans who were forced into Obamacare pay, who earn wages in the same range he does.

Progressives HATE honest politicians so much, they don't know how to deal with it. LOL
Still, he is on Obamacare. However sliced, he is on Obamacare.

It must be good as he is on it. Coulda gone on COBRA (?), not use it and pay cash. But nope, he is on Obamacare.

Bottom line, he caved. So much for his "principles".
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:15 AM
 
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You mean an reasonable alternative proposed by Cruz and the GOP?
Tee Hee - You mean the GOP led bills that were ignored by Pelosi and Reid?

REPUBLICAN HEALTH CARE BILLS (IGNORED) - USA Politics


Low info voters gonna spread low info lies....
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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OF course he can...and he will be paying his FEDERALLY MANDATED OBAMACARE insurance WITHOUT A SUBSIDY, like every other American who makes the same salary and is not eligible for a subsidy. The Democrats EXEMPTED FEDERAL EMPLOYEES from the part of Obamacare that denies subsidies to high-wage earners, yet Cruz is NOT going to act like he is above the law and will pay what other Americans pay.

Keep trying to figure out a way to belittle him....and keep failing.....
Has Sen. Cruz stated that he won't take advantage of the 80% subsidy supplied by his employer?


Who in their right mind would do that?
 
Old 03-25-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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Don't waste too much effort on Mr. Cruz, both parties do not really like him and think he is crazy. I doubt the Dems will expend too much money and effort tearing him down, his viability in the running is VERY LOW.

I like him....but do not really care about the D/R flimflam game, a sad joke!

ANYONE FOR POTUS☻☻☻☻☻☻

Sure they do. I will agree that ALL Progressives don't care for Cruz...because he believes in our foundational document and that we are a nation of laws, not men. THAT concept is "crazy" to progressives..."Crazy" and scary!
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