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We are constantly being bombarded by a fanciful story of heroic self defense by gun apologists. The truth is a child is more likely to play cops and robbers or cowboys and indians with a real loaded gun. Resulting in a tragic incident of a child killing a playmate and this happens roughly 390 times each year in America. 390 funerals were parents tear up and consider what they have lost. Children even teenagers often think a loaded gun is the answer to punishing someone he is mad at like Mommy or Daddy, older or younger siblings or people at school from a playground bully to that teacher that gave him an unsatisfactory evaluation. Again the death toll is that several hundred Americans meet there maker at the hands of a young person. None oft these kids are mentally deficient or young psychos in training just average American kids. So this should be weighed in the balance when compared to statistically infrequent events.
In Missouri, there is no age limit for leaving a child at home alone.
At age 8, I was rabbit hunting by myself. I shot them and cleaned them. I always had access to my 22. Kids here aren't sissy like they are in many places.
Sorry, but someone not killing a rabbit does not make them a sissy. Many love animals and nature and find solitude in that. Why do you feel like a big man killing a rabbit.
Sorry, but someone not killing a rabbit does not make them a sissy. Many love animals and nature and find solitude in that. Why do you feel like a big man killing a rabbit.
[quote=WaldoKitty;41086347]First of all it's not "parents". It was a single mother who purchased gun for protection. This is in St. Louis and there is a lot of crime there as we all know.
Furthermore It sounds as if the child was properly trained to use the gun for protection. In this case he shot the Thug, a one Lamonte Streeter. His companion who got away was later arrested for criminal activity. A fine pair.
You should be going after the "parents" of these two.
(Will be interesting to see how the tone of this changes now that the particulars are known.)[/QUOT
Umm..yea...priorities are a bit mixed up here. The 11 yo did what needed doing. Technically, yea, he shouldn't have had access to the weapon. But...morally, its good he did. J don't get where the "gun nut" label comes in here , either. His Mother is not a firearms enthusiast. Who would have had more than one gun, probably locked in a safe. This was just a single weapon, for a single purpose, that it was used for, as well. This isn't a tragic case of someone killed by a child playing with a gun. He used it for what it was there for. Home defense.
.... J don't get where the "gun nut" label comes in here , either. His Mother is not a firearms enthusiast. Who would have had more than one gun, probably locked in a safe. This was just a single weapon, for a single purpose, that it was used for, as well. This isn't a tragic case of someone killed by a child playing with a gun. He used it for what it was there for. Home defense.
This thread is more than a little off, in title.
I do. It's obvious the OP imagined this to be a White couple in the suburbs who have guns. Hence "Gun-Nut". A term reserved for White law abiding gun owners. It is a very bad attempt to justify some sort of gun control argument.
Now that the details are out, it was actually as single Black woman with kids attempting to do something about a high crime STL neighborhood, there is nothing but silence from the OP. The story absolutely doesn't fit the pre-determined narrative the OP was attempting to spin about gun ownership. Instead it absolutely proves that guns provide protection for the home.
It's amusing that the story posted, proved exactly the opposite of the intent, and furthermore it exposes the complete hypocrisy of those who want gun control.
First of all it's not "parents". It was a single mother who purchased gun for protection. This is in St. Louis and there is a lot of crime there as we all know.
Furthermore It sounds as if the child was properly trained to use the gun for protection. In this case he shot the Thug, a one Lamonte Streeter. His companion who got away was later arrested for criminal activity. A fine pair.
You should be going after the "parents" of these two.
(Will be interesting to see how the tone of this changes now that the particulars are known.)[/QUOT
Umm..yea...priorities are a bit mixed up here. The 11 yo did what needed doing. Technically, yea, he shouldn't have had access to the weapon. But...morally, its good he did. J don't get where the "gun nut" label comes in here , either. His Mother is not a firearms enthusiast. Who would have had more than one gun, probably locked in a safe. This was just a single weapon, for a single purpose, that it was used for, as well. This isn't a tragic case of someone killed by a child playing with a gun. He used it for what it was there for. Home defense.
This thread is more than a little off, in title.
I would like to know the details but no matter where this goes it is insane to leave an 11 year old with a gun to babysit a 4 year old.
It appears to be a fairly suburban area with neighbors and have to wonder if he called the police.
I would like to know the details but no matter where this goes it is insane to leave an 11 year old with a gun to babysit a 4 year old.
It appears to be a fairly suburban area with neighbors and have to wonder if he called the police.
I get it..OK? I wouldn't arm an 11 yo, and leave him on sentry duty, either. However, in this case, it worked out. I don't see that he was armed and given orders to STK either. He knew where the gun was, he drew the duty by default, and performed it. Admirable..for someone that age. Its no easy thing, holding the sights on someone, even if they are a fleabag. All the cops would have been able to do, here, is call the coroner to take the boy andhis sister away, after the intruders did what they do.
I call this a set of extenuating circumstances. At the least. Certainly not optimal. But, not worrst case either.
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The 11 yo did what needed doing. Technically, yea, he shouldn't have had access to the weapon. But...morally, its good he did. J don't get where the "gun nut" label comes in here , either. His Mother is not a firearms enthusiast. Who would have had more than one gun, probably locked in a safe. This was just a single weapon, for a single purpose, that it was used for, as well. This isn't a tragic case of someone killed by a child playing with a gun. He used it for what it was there for. Home defense. 
