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Old 11-13-2015, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I propose taxing all income, including all retained corporate earnings as corporations are now treated as legal citizens, from all sources, wage, inheritance, interest, dividends and even illegal (why should dope manufacturers, smugglers and distributers get away without paying taxes) income with a single deduction set at the 90th percentile of all income.

This would allow the majority of us to go about our business and not worry about taxes until we were already well off. This would also place the burden of paying for the cost of government on the very people and organizations that benefit most from the protection of civil law and, supposedly, our military presence in other countries protection their investments.

Note: I use percentile as it varies with inflation instead of being a fixed amount or percent.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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It goes WAY beyond not speaking well. She didn't know the facts relevant to her cause, and she's mathematically inept.

Northeastern University should be embarrassed. No one watching that can even begin to conclude Keely's getting an adequate education there at a cost of $45,530 in annual tuition and fees, alone (not even including living expenses, books, etc.).
Her background is interesting - I guess it's not impossible that her parents are "poor" and on 3 different "welfare" payments ..... but it appears unlikely.

Keely attended Francis W. Parker Prep School in Chicago for her "pre-college" schooling. It's located in Lincoln Park. It's a bit "spendy" - starting with a Tuition of $26,780 at age 4 and ending with a Tuition of $34,560 at grade 12. Total cost for a kid that goes through this School is $438,360.

Cavuto kept trying to talk to Keely about how the Math doesn't work with her "Free" Agenda.
Easy to see why she was having a problem with it. Francis W. Parker Prep School takes a Progressive lean on their Math Studies.
Mathematician Visits Parker
As Parker faculty continue to focus on math as a way of thinking, the student experience and what math looks like at a progressive school, the Math Department recently hosted UIC math professor Rico Gutstein at a meeting to inspire further collaboration and refinement of their work. Dr. Gutstein, a professor of math education in the Department of Curriculum and Instruction at UIC, focuses on using math to “investigate and critique injustice” and creates lessons to do so for K–12 students.


Francis W. Parker is a Progressive Prep School
Founded in 1901, Parker is one of the earliest progressive schools to practice a distinctive and thoughtful educational philosophy, which continues today.

She has been baked in Social Justice, Progressivism and Activism her entire life.

Keely Mullen - Linkedin Profile

Should she be "blamed" for her "dimness" on an interview? The "blame" lies with the way this kid was raised and educated from the cradle. I wonder what her parents thought about Keely saying they were "poor" and on welfare? They must be so proud.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:48 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I propose taxing all income, including all retained corporate earnings as corporations are now treated as legal citizens, from all sources, wage, inheritance, interest, dividends and even illegal (why should dope manufacturers, smugglers and distributers get away without paying taxes) income with a single deduction set at the 90th percentile of all income.
Congrats... you've just killed Main Street America's pension funds and retirement accounts.

ICI Measures Retirement Assets at $24.7 Trillion

Neither you nor any of your family, friends, or other loved ones have a pension plan or retirement account, right?
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Her background is interesting - I guess it's not impossible that her parents are "poor" and on 3 different "welfare" payments ..... but it appears unlikely.

Keely attended Francis W. Parker Prep School in Chicago for her "pre-college" schooling. It's located in Lincoln Park. It's a bit "spendy" - starting with a Tuition of $26,780 at age 4 and ending with a Tuition of $34,560 at grade 12. Total cost for a kid that goes through this School is $438,360.

Cavuto kept trying to talk to Keely about how the Math doesn't work with her "Free" Agenda.
Easy to see why she was having a problem with it. Francis W. Parker Prep School takes a Progressive lean on their Math Studies.
Mathematician Visits Parker
As Parker faculty continue to focus on math as a way of thinking, the student experience and what math looks like at a progressive school, the Math Department recently hosted UIC math professor Rico Gutstein at a meeting to inspire further collaboration and refinement of their work. Dr. Gutstein, a professor of math education in the Department of Curriculum and Instruction at UIC, focuses on using math to “investigate and critique injustice” and creates lessons to do so for K–12 students.


Francis W. Parker is a Progressive Prep School
Founded in 1901, Parker is one of the earliest progressive schools to practice a distinctive and thoughtful educational philosophy, which continues today.

She has been baked in Social Justice, Progressivism and Activism her entire life.

Keely Mullen - Linkedin Profile

Should she be "blamed" for her "dimness" on an interview? The "blame" lies with the way this kid was raised and educated from the cradle. I wonder what her parents thought about Keely saying they were "poor" and on welfare? They must be so proud.
And then goes home to visit Dad in his million dollar home in Chicago who is also a self proclaimed progressive.

Poor rich kid brought up progressive. She won't have a $150K loan to pay off.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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I'm suppose to pay to educate this moron?
Here I am asking the same questions again........why was it O.K. to have to pay to bail out the morons that ran their banks into the ground?

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She talks like a moron, with too many "ums" with everyother sentence has that stupid upward inflection question mark talk.
They couldn't find a better spokesperson than this numbnut?

And this useless milenenial will no doubt vote for Hilary who will promise more free sh *t.
And the bankers went before Congress and perjured themselves. Trillions to them.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Here I am asking the same questions again........why was it O.K. to have to pay to bail out the morons that ran their banks into the ground?



And the bankers went before Congress and perjured themselves. Trillions to them.
I'll make it simple for you....

loan vs handout.

See the difference ?

Probably not because all you post about is the bank bailouts regardless of the topic of the thread.
We loaned them money. They paid it back with interest.

Students.
We loaned them money for college. They don't want to pay it back. They want it for free.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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So now, you're shifting the goal posts... You were talking employment rate, now, you want to talk about underemployment...

You're best bet against poverty is a graduating high school.

For the fourth time, college graduates, on average, earn almost a million dollars more in salary, over their life time.

Keep your eye on the ball slugger. Stop trying to prove the unprovable. Fiscal issues aside, college is beneficial. Did you go?
They should have no problem paying back their student loans. Problem solved.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I propose taxing all income, including all retained corporate earnings as corporations are now treated as legal citizens, from all sources, wage, inheritance, interest, dividends and even illegal (why should dope manufacturers, smugglers and distributers get away without paying taxes) income with a single deduction set at the 90th percentile of all income.

This would allow the majority of us to go about our business and not worry about taxes until we were already well off. This would also place the burden of paying for the cost of government on the very people and organizations that benefit most from the protection of civil law and, supposedly, our military presence in other countries protection their investments.

Note: I use percentile as it varies with inflation instead of being a fixed amount or percent.
There are people who are retired. Yes they have some significant assets but those assets need to provide them with an income for the next 10-30 years.

You're not thinking this through. "If they got money we want it" ?
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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I'll make it simple for you....

loan vs handout.

See the difference ?
If it had been a loan we would see the difference.

TARP: The bailout success story that wasn

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Probably not because all you post about is the bank bailouts regardless of the topic of the thread.
We loaned them money. They paid it back with interest.
They didn't.

TARP: The bailout success story that wasn

Quit lying to me. Can we just let the kids write the loans off?
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I'll make it simple for you....

loan vs handout.

See the difference ?

Probably not because all you post about is the bank bailouts regardless of the topic of the thread.
We loaned them money. They paid it back with interest.

Students.
We loaned them money for college. They don't want to pay it back. They want it for free.
Many of the protests are only asking for the same interest rates the mega-banks get. Why should students pay 7-8% interest when the Federal Reserve loans money to their favorite banks at much lower rates-who can then loan out and make more than 10x what is actually in reserves by charging exorbitant interest rates?

I'm sure you'd disagree with that as well. Why don't you care about the Federal Reserve creating unprecedented amounts of money since 2008-not only via bailouts but quantitative easing? 95% of that newly created money has gone to less than 1% of the population while the incomes of 90% of Americans are in stagnation or decline. For you to infer that this is not a real problem is lunacy-unless of course you do not wish for a sovereign United States in the future and instead want a globally hegemonic economy controlled by the parasites in US Government and Corporations now.

We saved the banks, who have only grown to control more of our economy post 2008. They are detached institutions that really do not have as big of a connection with the future and success of our country as having an educated and well trained American workforce does.

Yes, it's probably true that Government backed student loans have caused tuition to inflate to insane levels and yes students should have been more aware of what they were getting into-but saying that over and over without any action doesn't solve anything and won't save our economy and future as a nation. Enough with the bankster rhetoric and propaganda -we must do what is best for our country and its future. Everyone should have to play by the same rules. There should be many banking institutions dismantled and many in Government and Financial sector rotting in a jail cell.

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