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Old 11-15-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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In the US we are satisfied with 30 thousand gun deaths a years to support an antiquated notion of the need to carry firearms. A few hundred more from other terrorists should matter much.


60% of which are suicides, they will find another way.
3% are accidental.
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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A few hundred dead here or there-price of liberal "multiculturalism"

A few hundred dead here or there-price of conservative "Second Amendment"

Amazingly, both are a product of the Constitution.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, I'm not 'cool' with muslims from anywhere until they can show there's a change in muslim behavior in all muslim areas. As long as islam continues to breed violence and terrorism, there's a problem with it.
So this is about religion, you don't get to pick and choose which religions people are allowed to practice in the US.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If you like all this multiculturalism so much, why don't you just move to France? Maybe somewhere in the Paris vicinity. The religion of peace will display some fireworks in your honor.
Because I don't speak French, and the plane tickets back to the Northwest to visit family would be extremely expensive.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It is idiotic to assume that religious freedom here is a ticket to let them in.
That is the reason you give here for doing just that.
Actually it is, when we start picking which religions are and are not allowed in the US, we begin to lose our freedoms as Americans. As someone that is on the right wing politically, I would assume you were against taking away freedoms from Americans.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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1. Return to the immigration policy before 1966, in which we favored western nations and those with skills over unskilled, third world immigrants. The mass of immigrants to the US since the 1960s have been from third world nations.

2. Enforce US immigration and deport illegals.

3. Build a fence and place the miliary on the Mexican border- terrorists will come through this open avenue.

4. Stop immigration of Muslims to the US- Muslims have been shown time and time again to harbor and foster terrorists among thier ranks. Granted, only a few are terrorists; but only a few snakes are poisonous as well. There are many, many potential immigrants to the US who do not have genocide as thier primary objective.

5. Cooperate with Syria (Obama was an imbecile to side with terrorists over Assad), Russia, Israel, Turkey and Jordan in the mideast to defeat the Islamic state.

6. Don't give Iran nukes- they are a state sponser of terror and will be more bold when they get nukes.

7. Cooperate with European governments to change thier open borders immigration policy. Many of these "migrants" find thier way to the US from Europe.

8. Profile middle easterners from age 15-60 in airports, surveilance, bank transfers, and restrictions on travel in the US.


In short, reverse liberal policy, which is self destructive and dangerous.
You know this attack happened in France, right? So you want to make it easier for people from Europe to migrate here?

The rest of your post reads like you would be in support of a fascist regime.....
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A few hundred dead here or there-price of liberal "multiculturalism"

A few hundred dead here or there-price of conservative "Second Amendment"

Amazingly, both are a product of the Constitution.
I was beating around the bush, but you did a fine job at pointing how the OP is arguing a strawman argument.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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Actually it is, when we start picking which religions are and are not allowed in the US, we begin to lose our freedoms as Americans. As someone that is on the right wing politically, I would assume you were against taking away freedoms from Americans.
I am concerned about taking freedom away from Americans.

What we need to do is stop making dangerous, intolerant muslims into American citizens in the first place. It is sheer idiocy to import a population which has demonstrated in EVERY VENUE to bring violence, intolerance, and rejection of western culture.

Why the hell would a rational nation SEEK to import-

1. Muslims- who seem to have the market cornered on terrorism

2. Intolerant individuals who reject the political and cultural norms of our nation

3. Foreign citizens who lack any skills and are illiterate in thier own language

4. Criminals who continue to commit crimes in the US


WAKE UP!!!!

How many more people need to die before liberals finally understand the dangers of the world?
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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You know this attack happened in France, right? So you want to make it easier for people from Europe to migrate here?

The rest of your post reads like you would be in support of a fascist regime.....
Fascist regime?

So protecting our borders and seeking to only grant immigration status to others who will not kill us and will not perpetually be on welfare is "fascist"?

This clearly shows the lunacy of the left.

BTW- how many Syrians are you taking into your home? If the answer is "none", you are simply hypocritical and want to expose others to risks you will not assume yourself. This, however, is typical of liberals, who are long on "want", but short on action.

We call this, "all hat and no cattle".
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am concerned about taking freedom away from Americans.

What we need to do is stop making dangerous, intolerant muslims into American citizens in the first place. It is sheer idiocy to import a population which has demonstrated in EVERY VENUE to bring violence, intolerance, and rejection of western culture.

Why the hell would a rational nation SEEK to import-

1. Muslims- who seem to have the market cornered on terrorism

2. Intolerant individuals who reject the political and cultural norms of our nation

3. Foreign citizens who lack any skills and are illiterate in thier own language

4. Criminals who continue to commit crimes in the US


WAKE UP!!!!

How many more people need to die before liberals finally understand the dangers of the world?
UN Migration policy ...first world countries need migrants from 3rd world countries to economically survive. Multiculturalism over nationalism must be stressed.

It's all there on the web to be found and read.
You think all these countries came up with the same general policy all on their own ?
The US is but the next country in the queue.

Now..waiting to hear "The UN isn't the boss of us".....

Oh yeah ???
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