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We presume that people are innocent until proven guilty..
Simple concept.
But are you really Americans?
Jump on here and post that you believe Clinton is and was fully law abiding citizen and will continue to believe so until it is proven otherwise.
I would suggest if you cannot make such a pledge you should not post on the question.
Your post is illogical, because you have built it on a false premise.
The court of law assumes she is innocent until proven guilty during the trial phase.
The FBI is investigating her, because it is assuming there is a reasonable chance that she is guilty of something, based on evidence that I have laid out...
We know for a fact that there was classified information stored on her private server, which is illegal.
We know for a fact that she sent classified information while overseas (including in China) via unsecured emails through foreign telecoms, which is illegal.
As a US citizen, I have every right to believe she may or may not be guilty, before the court of law makes a ruling. Do you honestly think all of those 2 Dozen women or so are lying about Bill Cosby? OJ? Do you conversely think that everyone found guilty is always guilty and we must always think so?
I am sorry that you struggled in Government class and have a hard time with over extrapolating concepts.
Republicans aren't investigating the emails, it's true.
They've "investigated" many other alleged scandals.
And nothing came of it.
Perhaps you can explain why their allegations always turn up empty.
Maybe you should check ALL the material Congress through the hearings have NOT gotten.
The dem admin drags and drags and drags.
Do you NOT see that Congress Subpoenaed information and did NOT get it yet, Judicial Watch got the INFORMATION Congress was asking for and t took over a year. Hmm!
Some of the paperwork Congress got was so redacted that you couldn't make heads nor tails of it yet, Judicial Watch got the EXACT same sheet of paper wit NO REDUCTIONS.
IF the Obama has NOTHING to hide WHY do they stall so much.
I know this is a waste of time because you NEVER believe your beloved dems could EVER possibly do ANY wrong!
Maybe you should check ALL the material Congress through the hearings have NOT gotten.
The dem admin drags and drags and drags.
Do you NOT see that Congress Subpoenaed information and did NOT get it yet, Judicial Watch got the INFORMATION Congress was asking for and t took over a year. Hmm!
Some of the paperwork Congress got was so redacted that you couldn't make heads nor tails of it yet, Judicial Watch got the EXACT same sheet of paper wit NO REDUCTIONS.
IF the Obama has NOTHING to hide WHY do they stall so much.
I know this is a waste of time because you NEVER believe your beloved dems could EVER possibly do ANY wrong!
How naive...
It has nothing to do with belief. It's all about producing evidence. You Pubs are operating on pure faith in these "scandals." And it's all you have because there's never any evidence to back up the juvenile name-calling.
These whiny GOP accusers say that the Clintons have done all these terrible and illegal things. They can't provide any evidence to back up their empty claims, so they whine that it must be Obama covering up for them.
Childish bellyaching.
In any criminal investigation, the accusers have to come up with evidence of a crime. Very rarely will the accused just confess and make competent investigation unnecessary.
So, I'l say again:
If Hillary has truly done all these horrible things, then press charges. Take her to trial. If convicted, sentence her. This isn't some strange circumstance where they're required to set a new precedent.
Just like all the silly, irrational talk among bitter, angry Pub congressmen about impeaching Obama for his "illegal and unconstitutional actions", it's all empty talk. It never goes beyond that.
You conservos are constantly spewing spittle because you believe[ the Clintons are criminals.
Adults know that isn't good enough.
You have to prove it.
Are the accusers just incompetent children incapable of backing up all their nasty allegations?
It is almost certain at this point that Clinton, and her aides and deputies, used her private, non-classified server for official correspondence. It is also clear at this point that classified data was transmitted and stored on the private, non-classified server. For those unfamiliar, and from some of the posts there are a few of you, this alone is a criminal act.
Ignore all the discussions of "classified at the time", that's nothing more than distraction and deflection. Some data is "born classified", meaning, the data is automatically classified, regardless of the presence or absence markings/headers/caveats. Those with security clearances receive training to know and understand this, and sign non-disclosure agreements.
Ignore the deflection from Clinton's campaign complaining about the intelligence community "over classifying" things. First, the presence of top secret data, with numerous additional caveats has been widely reported on. This isn't the result of "over classification" run amok, it's a clear example of Clinton disregarding laws/rules/policies. Second, when Clinton's campaign spokesman made his initial remarks regarding over classification, it was only the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) that had identified the presence of classified data on Clinton's private, non-classified server. Since that time, the State Department has found, and confirmed the presence of classified data in Clinton's email. This would indicate two separate Government agencies agreeing, and confirming the presence of classified data in Clinton's emails, versus her spokesman with his Kevin Bacon in Animal House style "Remain calm! All is well!" assurances to the contrary.
Finally, the DOJ and FBI don't normally offer immunity to persons connected with an ongoing investigation, unless there is some violation of law to be immune from. The FBI is conducting an investigation into the server, the possible exposure of extremely sensitive, classified, national security data, and some still chose to ignore all this. This isn't partisan politics. This isn't a GOP witch hunt. This is President Obama's Department of Justice, and FBI conducting an investigation. This is President Obama's DoJ and FBI that have offered Bryan Pagliano, Clinton's aide that set up the private, unclassified server immunity from prosecution. Not the GOP, not GOP led Congressional Committees, not "Republican, activist judges", not private entities like Judicial Watch, but the Obama administration.
It has nothing to do with belief. It's all about producing evidence. You Pubs are operating on pure faith in these "scandals." And it's all you have because there's never any evidence to back up the juvenile name-calling.
These whiny GOP accusers say that the Clintons have done all these terrible and illegal things. They can't provide any evidence to back up their empty claims, so they whine that it must be Obama covering up for them.
Childish bellyaching.
In any criminal investigation, the accusers have to come up with evidence of a crime. Very rarely will the accused just confess and make competent investigation unnecessary.
So, I'l say again:
If Hillary has truly done all these horrible things, then press charges. Take her to trial. If convicted, sentence her. This isn't some strange circumstance where they're required to set a new precedent.
Just like all the silly, irrational talk among bitter, angry Pub congressmen about impeaching Obama for his "illegal and unconstitutional actions", it's all empty talk. It never goes beyond that.
You conservos are constantly spewing spittle because you believe[ the Clintons are criminals.
Adults know that isn't good enough.
You have to prove it.
Are the accusers just incompetent children incapable of backing up all their nasty allegations?
Everything to date points to that conclusion.
I should have known you would come back with nothing but insults.
You act as if the dems NEVER held hearings when they were in control.
I suggest you take off your dem partisan blinders for ONCE in your life and READ the above post from TXStrat, then come back and make your case based on the facts instead of just pure partisan B.S.
Let me guess, you probably criticized Trump when he said that he could shoot a person and still keep his voters?
Do a search and back up your claim.
Otherwise, you're just flinging impotent mud. Just like your GOP champions.
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Well, since you keep ignoring the facts and diverting...I think it is #2. Hillary can break laws and no longer cares about the inconvenience of following laws to keep our information safe, because she has you...a good little sheep in the flock that would vote for her, even if she shot someone.
The sheep are the GOP followers crying for her scalp w/o evidence. Mindlessly falling into line when their leaders like Limbaugh tell them that they need to pump up their blood pressure. That's the diversion. "Hey! Don't look at what we're doing. It's those nasty Clintons! Look at all the stuff we're claiming w/o evidence!"
You want to jail her?
Then prove it.
That's the legal fact. Everything else is childish speculative name-calling.
If there's anything substantial behind all the weeping and whining from the right, then press charges. Hold a trial. It's done thousands of times across the nation Mon- Fri every week.
Instead of whining, just do it.
Of course, sniveling is so much easier than taking action.
It has nothing to do with belief. It's all about producing evidence. You Pubs are operating on pure faith in these "scandals." And it's all you have because there's never any evidence to back up the juvenile name-calling.
These whiny GOP accusers say that the Clintons have done all these terrible and illegal things. They can't provide any evidence to back up their empty claims, so they whine that it must be Obama covering up for them.
Childish bellyaching.
In any criminal investigation, the accusers have to come up with evidence of a crime. Very rarely will the accused just confess and make competent investigation unnecessary.
So, I'l say again:
If Hillary has truly done all these horrible things, then press charges. Take her to trial. If convicted, sentence her. This isn't some strange circumstance where they're required to set a new precedent.
Just like all the silly, irrational talk among bitter, angry Pub congressmen about impeaching Obama for his "illegal and unconstitutional actions", it's all empty talk. It never goes beyond that.
You conservos are constantly spewing spittle because you believe[ the Clintons are criminals.
Adults know that isn't good enough.
You have to prove it.
Are the accusers just incompetent children incapable of backing up all their nasty allegations?
Everything to date points to that conclusion.
You are ignoring the fact that she's been stalling. Why would that be? Is it because she's got something to hide?
Instead of wasting energy on insults, why don't you urge your beloved Hillary to stop stalling.
The sheep are the GOP followers crying for her scalp w/o evidence. Mindlessly falling into line when their leaders like Limbaugh tell them that they need to pump up their blood pressure. That's the diversion. "Hey! Don't look at what we're doing. It's those nasty Clintons! Look at all the stuff we're claiming w/o evidence!"
It isn't the GOP, GOP Congressional Committees, conservative talk show hosts, or anyone else connected to the GOP leading the investigation. It is the Obama administration Department of Justice, and FBI. The FBI doesn't normally get involved unless there is some suspected wrong doing. The DOJ doesn't normally offer immunity from prosecution, unless there is something to be prosecuted for. These are important facts you seem to be conveniently overlooking.
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