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Old 03-12-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I am asking this question because I noticed the Republicans have not delivered their constituents anything they promised:

1) Immigration - Establishment Republicans tell their constituents that they will control immigration. Instead they begin to expand it and have plans to give a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Republicans certainly have no intention of cutting down on H1B visas.

2) Gay Marriage/Transgender rights - Republicans more or less caved on this and are being steamrolled by the Democrats.

3) Trade - Republicans expand trade further and hurt their working class constituents. When their constituents complained, they are called socialists and told to shape up or stay unemployed.

4) Abortion - LOL is all I have to say about this.

5) Foreign Policy - Establishment Republicans want more war in the Middle East and possibly Asia while their constituents don't really care about these regions.

Call out the Democrats for their policies but you can't deny the Democrats have delivered on their promises to their constituents even if they are half baked. Gay marriage, health care reform, racial issues, expansion of welfare, and climate change/environmentalism have all made considerable progress under Obama while the Republicans have been on the defensive. Do conservatives want to continue to support a political party that is constantly on the defensive?
Racial issues have made considerable progress? Did you really say that? There is more racial intolerance now than there has been in 20 years. The Democrats don't care about minorities, other than keeping them on the government dole to keep their votes. The claim that Democrats are more inclusive is blown out of the water as soon as you look at the field of candidates.
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Old 03-12-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I am asking this question because I noticed the Republicans have not delivered their constituents anything they promised:

1) Immigration - Establishment Republicans tell their constituents that they will control immigration. Instead they begin to expand it and have plans to give a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Republicans certainly have no intention of cutting down on H1B visas.

2) Gay Marriage/Transgender rights - Republicans more or less caved on this and are being steamrolled by the Democrats.

3) Trade - Republicans expand trade further and hurt their working class constituents. When their constituents complained, they are called socialists and told to shape up or stay unemployed.

4) Abortion - LOL is all I have to say about this.

5) Foreign Policy - Establishment Republicans want more war in the Middle East and possibly Asia while their constituents don't really care about these regions.

Call out the Democrats for their policies but you can't deny the Democrats have delivered on their promises to their constituents even if they are half baked. Gay marriage, health care reform, racial issues, expansion of welfare, and climate change/environmentalism have all made considerable progress under Obama while the Republicans have been on the defensive. Do conservatives want to continue to support a political party that is constantly on the defensive?
not going to bother to address every issue because some are just ridiculous and your opinion. You can't achieve anything without some support from the president and there has been almost none.

As for health care reform, if you remember the house and senate were controlled by democrats when it was pushed through after the president lied to the people.

Gay marriage, again, this decision was made by the courts, not the Dems or Reb.

Abortion: this has not been an issue with either party for years. being personally opposed to something and changing the law are 2 different things.

When did the Republicans in office say they were going to do anything about climate change?

Everything else you are talking about is way off base.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I also have to ask do the Republican establishment have any plans to address any of the concerns that their constituents voiced this year through their anointment of Trump as their representative? I just see them bash their voters instead of addressing their concerns on immigration and trade.
Are you having fun asking questions that really have no answers? Actually a huge number of Trump supporters are not even Republicans and even he admits, a huge number have never even voted. I am a moderate conservative. Our entire family ranging in age from 69 down to 28 are Republicans. Not one is supporting Trump. We live all over the country I will add as well as having friends all over the country. I only know 2 Republicans that are actually supporting him. Trump does not attract the basic Republican. His appeal comes from people outside the main stream. That is why he is referred to as the Outsider. That and his not being a politician.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:24 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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When have the Democrats "delivered" anything they promised? Jobs? Where? "If you like your health insurance, you can keep it." But the Democrats have delivered a lot of misery.

You're aware, aren't you, that until a year ago January the Democrats still controlled the Senate, and even now that Republicans are in control, Obama "has a pen" and has vetoed or threatened to veto Republican bills. Harry Ried had over 300 Republican-authored bills on his desk when McConnell took over as Majority Leader.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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I am asking this question because I noticed the Republicans have not delivered their constituents anything they promised:

1) Immigration - Establishment Republicans tell their constituents that they will control immigration. Instead they begin to expand it and have plans to give a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Republicans certainly have no intention of cutting down on H1B visas.

2) Gay Marriage/Transgender rights - Republicans more or less caved on this and are being steamrolled by the Democrats.

3) Trade - Republicans expand trade further and hurt their working class constituents. When their constituents complained, they are called socialists and told to shape up or stay unemployed.

4) Abortion - LOL is all I have to say about this.

5) Foreign Policy - Establishment Republicans want more war in the Middle East and possibly Asia while their constituents don't really care about these regions.

Call out the Democrats for their policies but you can't deny the Democrats have delivered on their promises to their constituents even if they are half baked. Gay marriage, health care reform, racial issues, expansion of welfare, and climate change/environmentalism have all made considerable progress under Obama while the Republicans have been on the defensive. Do conservatives want to continue to support a political party that is constantly on the defensive?


Detroit
........99 percent Democrat........... A rotted out husk of a city...... Dems have run that city into the ground.....you you wanna talk about delivering on promises??


South Chicago.....




Mostly black poor and Democrat! Won't even think about voting for anything else! And it looks like it too! Why should the Dems do anything for them when they just blindly pull the left lever? SMH

Baltimore.........



Democrat run for 40 plus years... Cant blame GOP for any of these hell holes. Promises of better conditions?? Puhleeeez! Dems dont care.....no reason to care.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIHWgdVFq9s
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Originally Posted by X14Freak View Post
I am asking this question because I noticed the Republicans have not delivered their constituents anything they promised:

1) Immigration - Establishment Republicans tell their constituents that they will control immigration. Instead they begin to expand it and have plans to give a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Republicans certainly have no intention of cutting down on H1B visas.

2) Gay Marriage/Transgender rights - Republicans more or less caved on this and are being steamrolled by the Democrats.

3) Trade - Republicans expand trade further and hurt their working class constituents. When their constituents complained, they are called socialists and told to shape up or stay unemployed.

4) Abortion - LOL is all I have to say about this.

5) Foreign Policy - Establishment Republicans want more war in the Middle East and possibly Asia while their constituents don't really care about these regions.

Call out the Democrats for their policies but you can't deny the Democrats have delivered on their promises to their constituents even if they are half baked. Gay marriage, health care reform, racial issues, expansion of welfare, and climate change/environmentalism have all made considerable progress under Obama while the Republicans have been on the defensive. Do conservatives want to continue to support a political party that is constantly on the defensive?
I don't want anything from government other than protection from forigen interests and trade.

I'm not interested in taking other people's money for nothing.

Clear enough?
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Old 03-13-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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I don't want anything from government other than protection from forigen interests and trade.

I'm not interested in taking other people's money for nothing.

Clear enough?
BOOM!
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Old 03-13-2016, 01:13 PM
 
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Simply put?

Because the conservative won't give the n*gg*rs and wetbacks any of their money. They just want to blow up the arabs.

Really most conservative arguments get down to this fundamental idea "I am the only one that works hard and none of my money should go to other people (even if they work hard)" It is then channeled to whatever way a few rich elites desire.
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Old 03-14-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Simply put?

Because the conservative won't give the n*gg*rs and wetbacks any of their money.


Let me take a wild guess. You are not a Conservative....
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Old 03-14-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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Do these politicians strike fear in the hearts of Democrats like the 90s Republicans or are they laughed at?
They strike fear in all the corrupt politicians in both parties. The dems and repubs have spent decades assembling their corrupt, system of trading favors and free taxpayer money for votes, money and power. Of course they are afraid of any candidate running for president who they think might put the brakes on their gravy train.

But you go on and pretend that this is just about the politics of republican vs democrat, and remain blind to the corruption going on by the politicians in Washington DC. Just remember to "baa" like a good little sheep when you do so.
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