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Old 03-10-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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Maybe because the party we voted for at least stopped the crazy ones from passing insane laws. If we continue to vote for them, we will get something accomplished soon.
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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So Trump runs on the old GOP message. Then he goes out and lies about all the jobs his companies have created. Problem with this is they are overseas.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Delivered nothing ? What if I'm not looking for a handout ?
That won't compute at all for modern US liberals/democrats. They can't even conceive of government not giving them handouts. Oh how far the left has fallen from And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. — John F. Kennedy
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:56 PM
 
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I am asking this question because I noticed the Republicans have not delivered their constituents anything they promised:

1) Immigration - Establishment Republicans tell their constituents that they will control immigration. Instead they begin to expand it and have plans to give a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Republicans certainly have no intention of cutting down on H1B visas.

2) Gay Marriage/Transgender rights - Republicans more or less caved on this and are being steamrolled by the Democrats.

3) Trade - Republicans expand trade further and hurt their working class constituents. When their constituents complained, they are called socialists and told to shape up or stay unemployed.

4) Abortion - LOL is all I have to say about this.

5) Foreign Policy - Establishment Republicans want more war in the Middle East and possibly Asia while their constituents don't really care about these regions.

Call out the Democrats for their policies but you can't deny the Democrats have delivered on their promises to their constituents even if they are half baked. Gay marriage, health care reform, racial issues, expansion of welfare, and climate change/environmentalism have all made considerable progress under Obama while the Republicans have been on the defensive. Do conservatives want to continue to support a political party that is constantly on the defensive?
The lowest homeownership rate in 50 years.
The lowest household net disposable income in 50 years.
17 trillion in national debt.
Continued outsourcing of Jobs.

The democratic myth of a machine has given us so much.
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Trump supporters don't think Cruz is hard enough on immigration. A lot of Trump supporters are fearful that more immigration will mean a more liberal country.
Immigration or illegal immigration? There is a difference.
I am an Indep.
Why would I support the Democrats who are so willing to pander to illegals?
Why would I support democrats who are in bed with wall street as much as the GOP?
Why would I favor the Dems over the GOP when the Dems caused my health insurance costs to skyrocket?
Why would I Vote for Hillary when she is a proven liar and a fraud?
Why would I vote for Bernie when outside of politics he was a failure. Inside politics he never had a bill that he authored passed. Why would I vote for Bernie when can barely manage his own money. What qualifies him to manage a nation?
Unfortunately the GOP choices are every bit as questionable as what the Dems have put up.
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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Repubs are too busy worrying about what blacks are getting from their association with the Democratic Party to pay attention to the fact that they get NOTHING from their own party.

They need to worry about their own vote.
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Lesser of two evils. In case the OP hasn't figured it out, there is a reason the Republican establishment is terrified of the results of the primary race. The establishment talks the talk during election season, but they are little different than the current crop of Dims.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Lesser of two evils. In case the OP hasn't figured it out, there is a reason the Republican establishment is terrified of the results of the primary race. The establishment talks the talk during election season, but they are little different than the current crop of Dims.
Very true. The fact that Trump leads in the primaries is evidence of the discontent of American conservatives.
The fact that a man like Bernie Sanders is doing as well as he is is statement to the discontent of the dems.
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Old 03-12-2016, 06:15 AM
 
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How is that possible when GOP writes the laws, and controls the purse? What you just said is why people are turned off by GOP, because that kind of comment is the new standard form them.

IMO, the biggest reason for people being angry at GOP is the fact that they play people for idiots trying to blame Obama for everything, while accepting zero responsibility for anything even when they are neck deep in it. Most people are not that stupid. They are tired of hearing it.
I don't think you understand what the Fed is. Current laws, make them fairly independent outside of who Obama picks to fill positions of power within it.

#1 When the Fed (created by a liberal) started instituting this Trickle Down policy the Democrats were in charge of both houses of congress and did nothing to change any laws.

#2 Obama made every single Fed pick, to a big or small post, to a QE Trickle Down supporter. QE Trickle Down exists, because Obama keeps picking people who do it.

#3 Despite doing that, Obama would literally make speeches blasting Trickle Down economics in broad terms. And his sheep would literally cheer not realizing just how dumb they were.

Republicans are part of the problem and so are Democrats.

Factually speaking...Obama's actions has handed over trillions of dollars to the hyper wealthy. You can obfuscate this fact all you want, but it is true. Too many Democrats are uninformed sheep dependent upon their free handouts so they will cheer Obama's policies that create a massively growing wealth gap while decrying the growing wealth gap.
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Old 03-12-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I am asking this question because I noticed the Republicans have not delivered their constituents anything they promised:

1) Immigration - Establishment Republicans tell their constituents that they will control immigration. Instead they begin to expand it and have plans to give a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Republicans certainly have no intention of cutting down on H1B visas.

2) Gay Marriage/Transgender rights - Republicans more or less caved on this and are being steamrolled by the Democrats.

3) Trade - Republicans expand trade further and hurt their working class constituents. When their constituents complained, they are called socialists and told to shape up or stay unemployed.

4) Abortion - LOL is all I have to say about this.

5) Foreign Policy - Establishment Republicans want more war in the Middle East and possibly Asia while their constituents don't really care about these regions.

Call out the Democrats for their policies but you can't deny the Democrats have delivered on their promises to their constituents even if they are half baked. Gay marriage, health care reform, racial issues, expansion of welfare, and climate change/environmentalism have all made considerable progress under Obama while the Republicans have been on the defensive. Do conservatives want to continue to support a political party that is constantly on the defensive?

That is Government, not Freedom & Liberty.
I ask to be given nothing I already had. I just ask not to take what I have left, while getting back what has already been taken.

Teach a man to fish v. give a man a fish.
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