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Old 05-15-2016, 08:50 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Good for you, but what you describe is NOT available at all schools/universities/park districts/state parks/etc., nationwide.

And therein lies the problem.
My husband assumed that open shower rooms were the case in our facilities, too, but he was wrong. The ladies' locker rooms are set up differently, so before you jump to conclusions about what is or is not available in your community, maybe you should double-check, particularly if you are a male who's never set foot in the women's locker room. As my husband was, you might find yourself surprised by the reality of the situation.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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My husband assumed that open shower rooms were the case in our facilities, too, but he was wrong. The ladies' locker rooms are set up differently, so before you jump to conclusions about what is or is not available in your community, maybe you should double-check, particularly if you are a male who's never set foot in the women's locker room. As my husband was, you might find yourself surprised by the reality of the situation.
Like I said... What you describe is NOT available at all schools/universities/park districts/state parks/etc., nationwide.

And therein lies the problem.

People REALLY need to learn to think beyond their own little self-contained life-bubble.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:07 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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As I said, he assumed the ladies' locker room looked like the men's locker room, and I assumed the men's room looked like the ladies' locker room. Neither of us was correct and both of us had our assumptions turned upside-down when we learned the truth. Go out and verify what is going on in YOUR community facilities. Maybe you're right, or maybe, like my husband and me, you'll learn that your rec center made changes years ago with no great fanfare that will mitigate your concerns about privacy. Of course, if you just want to raise Cain about what you perceive as government over-reach, feel free to carry on your ranting. That's beyond my scope of interest.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:15 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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As I said, he assumed the ladies' locker room looked like the men's locker room, and I assumed the men's room looked like the ladies' locker room. Neither of us was correct and both of us had our assumptions turned upside-down when we learned the truth. Go out and verify what is going on in YOUR community facilities.
I have. And not only that, I've lived in several states, and my kids and I have attended several different schools and universities. And we've all used state and national park facilities in various locations. Based on that, we KNOW FOR A FACT that what you describe is NOT available at all facilities, nationwide.

Therein lies the problem with the Obama Admin mandate that those with penises and testicles be allowed to change and shower with minor girls and women (and vice versa) in multiple occupancy changing/locker/shower room facilities.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:19 AM
 
Location: A house
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obama is one sick f**k and his lapdogs eat it up which makes them as sick as that vile POS. And obama's just getting started with f**king this country over before he leaves office.

Oooh, but Trump's tax returns! Twaddle-headed morons all.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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Man I tell you, this is going to hand Trump the election on a silver platter if obama pushes his leftist agenda. .3% (point 3 percent, less than a half a percent of people are transgender)

Anyone who votes for sh*tlary Will continue this downward spiral of INSANITY.

it's home schooling for my kids if this crap is pushed and eventually becomes mandatory
You ever look up the definition of Psychopath?
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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It's INSANE, after 7 years of saving the American Economy, American Families Homes, Stopping Medical companies from placing liens on peoples property, record breaking improvements in jobs, saving the automotive industry by supporting their continuance, killing Bin Laden with a Seal Team, instead of blowing up two countries and destabilizing a region, pushing for curtailment in the outrageous encroachment cost upon young people for education and supporting a system of diplomacy. Still- Right Winger, can't digest to consider any of this because they can't see beyond the skin and their hatred for anyone from a historical culture who were once thought of as "property", to be President and to see him have to fix the mess up's made by their hailed Anglo previous president.
They will never wake up and open their eyes. It's the same as the masses of 50 yrs ago, attacked people in the streets fighting against Civil Equality. The only things that keeps them from the mad man belligerence of fighting in the streets is the fear of being jailed. Other than that, they fight by denial, attacks, and use the same other tools they used during segregation; which was, "put down commentary", "cow dung slinging", "refusal to acknowledge achievements", "refusal to make themselves aware of the progressive works", and "they can't fathom the thought of giving credit for the many works President Obama achieved. Because in the Right Wing Mind, that is too much like respecting a person of color as an Equal.
It's the same with the continual fight of Right Wingers toward and against women, It crashes the bubble mentality of "white male domnance", to come to terms to respect women as "Equals". Even in the courts of today, women are not prosecuted the same as men when it comes to sex with minors, because to do so, would promote and imply male and female equality, so, they go soft on the women and the undertone of such implies that she is "less than, and must be compensated for her actions by lesser penalty.

Right Winger- is another word for "Conservative" and Conservative is another word for "Confederate Ideologist". The word games continues because it is taken as premise that the masses understand it primarily as a racial divide party make up.
There is nothing conservative about it, except trying to conserve the ideals of a Antebellum Society of Confederate Ideals. This is a truth they won't admit in public and many can't and won't admit it to themselves. Even the so called Evangelicals, is another confabulation undertaking. Back in the era of the slavery, one pushed and claimed Christian and to know and live by Christian Values, but in the other hand, held a whip, chains and torture, for self enrichment and ego elation of vanity. None of which goes along within being a Christian. "Two Faces" one lying unto the other, while they are part of a single human head on a single human body. "Convoluted" is the word to depict such, lost in the fictions of their own confabulations, unaware they make themselves an abomination unto the premise of Christian premise. Trying to serve two masters, who are on opposite ends of the spectrum, by a simple turn of the head from left to right, as a different face appears with the turn.

President Obama has certainly shown who he is, and he is who he said he is and has worked to do what he said he would do. That is push for and work toward "Change" for THE AMERICA PEOPLE, to push for and build a system of "equal systems of fair play", opportunity without bigotry constraining it, and working to promote democracy as a communicable platform in dealing with the people and the world communities of nations.

This however, riles the hell out of "Right Wingers", who still have the barbarian mentality of "Seek a Fight", "Create a Conflict", "Talk Loud and Drum up a Dumb'ed down posse" and "Attack Something" !!!!! They care nothing about "Facts', they are lost in "Publicity Buzz Words", never knowing or caring to know the root meaning of the words, nor the premise of the word in broad context.

Ignorance is astoundingly insidious and the more insidious it is, the more astounded with foolish bravado of the uninformed and ignorant become and be.

The good thing about today's world of recording "history", is: It will be recorded by multiple voices instead of the past "white washed versions" from yester-years. It won't be twisted and the truth hidden and covered over with delusions, the facts are not only evident in visual format, but audio and written text as well as full live motion video.
In decades to come, people will look back and see the craziness of the fight against National Health Care, and wonder what the heck kind of people opposed it, they will look back and wonder how could the Wealthy of the Right Wing collude medicine and medical care to a point to turn into into a greed machine and disregard lives for the sake of profit pursuits. the Barbarianism of such things will again be a shame the generations of the future must face and wonder how could people have been of such madness.
There will come a time in the future when the Liberal minded today, will be hailed as the real American's who supported and promoted the ideals the Constitution Put forth for an continually developing nation. The anti-liberal will be seen for the cycles and sectors of hatred and inhumane disregards which they cling unto and their continual fight against the individualism of the human being.
One need not worry about perversions and such things, those are Gods matter, for each has his own soul to stand accountable for.

Trump continues to speak as if he is a Tyrant, he talks as if there is no congress and as if there is no political procedures, he talks as if he can be a dictator in the midst of a democratic nation. He stand as if he has to abide by no rule and no laws apply to him.

Trump could never have the Presidential Stature and Dignity in Demeanor and Manner of what has been exhibited by President Obama.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It's INSANE, after 7 years of saving the American Economy, American Families Homes, Stopping Medical companies from placing liens on peoples property, record breaking improvements in jobs, saving the automotive industry by supporting their continuance, killing Bin Laden with a Seal Team, instead of blowing up two countries and destabilizing a region, pushing for curtailment in the outrageous encroachment cost upon young people for education and supporting a system of diplomacy. Still- Right Winger, can't digest to consider any of this because they can't see beyond the skin and their hatred for anyone from a historical culture who were once thought of as "property", to be President and to see him have to fix the mess up's made by their hailed Anglo previous president.
Are you a woman, or anyone who has a daughter or loves a woman or minor female relative or family friend?

Go (or have them, as the case may be) change and/or shower with a person with a penis and testicles because that person just so happens to "feel" like "identifying" as "transgender" at that particular time:




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Old 05-15-2016, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Fascinating, though...
Its ok for a lesbian to be in there supposedly showering and changing with other women, but the second a dude does it, it's dangerous and threatening.

Y'all don't think much of men.
Exactly! And meanwhile, the likes of Jerry Sandusky always used the gender correct locker room.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Can't report a 6'4" male exposing his penis to your 6 year old daughter anymore if that person "claims" to be "transgender."
Can you report a 6'4" male for exposing his penis to your 6 year old son if that person claims to be "cisgender."?
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