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Old 05-15-2016, 10:40 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Can you report a 6'4" male for exposing his penis to your 6 year old son if that person claims to be "cisgender."?
Why would that even be necessary? Is it not customary to accept various stages of male nudity in multiple occupancy boys'/men's restroom/changing/locker/shower room facilities?

Now, ask yourself... Is it customary to accept various stages of male nudity in multiple occupancy girls'/women's restroom/changing/locker/shower room facilities?
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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That was the solution provided for the MTF trans with a penis in the IL school district. Both the MTF trans with a penis AND the Obama Admin REJECTED that solution and INSISTED that the MTF trans student with a penis and testicles be given unrestricted access to and use of the girls' multiple occupancy restrooms/locker/shower rooms. I've posted photos of what multiple occupancy locker and shower rooms look like:



I am actually going to have to agree with you that their rejection of what I consider to be a perfectly fine solution is pretty lame.
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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Are you a woman, or anyone who has a daughter or loves a woman or minor female relative or family friend?

Go (or have them, as the case may be) change and/or shower with a person with a penis and testicles because that person just so happens to "feel" like "identifying" as "transgender" at that particular time:



Now the question of which bathrooms transgender people should use has now morphed into men showering in the girls shower room Where does this drama queen attitude go next?
Being the parent of two fully grown females i worried about a lot of things but i never worried if all the women going into public rest rooms were all actually women,should every one going into a public rest room be subjected to a mandatory gender check?
As for a guy going into a girls shower room? the shrieks and screaming would have him out of there in a real hurry as teachers and other females would see to it he molested no one.
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:35 AM
 
Location: London
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This has never, ever, been proven, scientifically or otherwise, which is where the whole crux of the argument lies. It is an easy crutch to use when one knows that one's behavior is outside the norm and wants it validated instead of trying to change it, but it has never, ever, been proven. What would you say to someone who said that being a thief or being a pedophile is a "fixed, innate trait" and had no science or anything else to back it up? Would you just blindly accept it and turn them loose on your possessions or your children because it's who they are and they were born that way, or would you realize that without proof they are simply trying to validate and excuse unacceptable behavior?

This is the issue that the majority of our society has with all of this, there is zero proof that it is inborn and not a result of environmental or mental factors. No one that I know hates gays or transgenders, or anyone else. The true haters are those who are intolerant of people with traditional values that have always been the foundations of our society until the past several decades. We are supposed to live and let live, yet we are not allowed to live as we choose without being called haters, bigots, etc. All of the tolerance is supposed to be on the part of one side only, even though, AGAIN, no one has ever proven in any way that being gay or trans is an innate trait.

If you are trans, realize that you are the exception instead of the norm and act accordingly. If I thought I was a cat and I was one of less than 1% of the population who thought they were cats, I would not expect restaurants to start serving people out of pet bowls to accommodate me. Talk about thinking that someone is a precious little snowflake who needs to be shielded from reality...
Except that thieving and pedophilia both affect others without their adult consent.

Whereas if someone born Tony wants to become a Tonya, who does that really affect in and of itself?
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: London
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What stall? Do you see any changing stalls in the locker room photo I posted? No.

I'm stumped on that one because I myself, being both a high school and college athlete, and both of my kids being the same... we all showered in school/university multiple occupancy facilities like the ones I posted.
Even so, I'm sure you guys weren't all swinging your ding-a-ling around and making a big show out of changing/showering. You get in there, do your business, and leave. It's real life, not porn.
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:05 PM
 
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Exactly. 0.3%. And even less will you be able to readily identify as 'transgender' unless you have a habit of checking out strangers' junk. So your chances of this ever even being relevant to you are miniscule, unless of course, you live in a public toilet.

So, what exactly is the BFD?
It's not about letting the .03% of people who identify as transgender use the bathroom. It's about erasing the societal norms of males and females being obviously different. It's already being catapulted into eliminating male and female bathrooms completely. Locker rooms and showers are in the crosshairs as well. If it was JUST about letting trannies use the bathroom they don't correspond to it'd be one thing, but that's just the premise being used for something far more radical and unhealthy.
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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There's a reason so many places already have "family" bathrooms and locker rooms, because having adults of any sexual persuasion change, shower, etc with children who're not their own is a bad idea.
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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Man I tell you, this is going to hand Trump the election on a silver platter if obama pushes his leftist agenda. .3% (point 3 percent, less than a half a percent of people are transgender)

Anyone who votes for sh*tlary Will continue this downward spiral of INSANITY.

it's home schooling for my kids if this crap is pushed and eventually becomes mandatory
The Obama Admin is also trying to outlaw home schooling. A quick google search will show you all the in-roads they've already made. How can they indoctrinate your children if you still have the right to object by home schooling?
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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The Obama Admin is also trying to outlaw home schooling. A quick google search will show you all the in-roads they've already made. How can they indoctrinate your children if you still have the right to object by home schooling?
This is news to me. Can you provide some background on what specifically the Obama administration has taken to outlaw home schooling?

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Old 05-15-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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The Obama Admin is also trying to outlaw home schooling. A quick google search will show you all the in-roads they've already made. How can they indoctrinate your children if you still have the right to object by home schooling?
Screw obama
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