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Old 06-27-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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If the building has been renovated in any way in the last 20 years they are required to have ADA compliant doorways.
And when it hasn't? No.

Performing surgery on a woman without requiring the facility to meet surgery center standards is treating women like 2nd class citizens. Why liberals are adamant in going along with that is completely illogical.
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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Why go to a Catholic hospital for such a procedure?
Sometimes the only hospital in town is Catholic-affiliated. If there is a hospital in town. There are many communities in Texas and in other states that have little if any medical infrastructure.
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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lol. Then what are they doing getting pregnant against their wishes? Intelligent? Nope. Responsible? Obviously not. Moral? Surely, you jest!


Don't get me wrong. I'm not against abortion. But to call women seeking abortion intelligent, responsible, and moral is a laugh. A very BIG laugh.
Yes, because in your little fantasy world, all birth control is 100 percent effective and never, ever, ever fails.

In other words, you live in a parallel universe. Back here in the real world, unexpected things happen, yes, even to intelligent, moral, responsible people. Blows your mind, doesn't it?

Geesh, you talking about intelligent people while making a post like this is the real joke.
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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Actually, it is. But you're good with that. That's on you.

Surgery centers are required to meet higher standards.

Surgical (suction aspiration) abortions can be performed at clinics that meet much lower standards.

That's treating women as 2nd class citizens.
And NON surgical abortion providers were required to meet surgical center standards while OTHER outpatient surgical providers were not required to meet surgical center standards.

Why is that?

If they were worried about safe surgical procedures then the law would have applied to ALL outpatient surgical procedure providers but it didn't. And they applied it to providers that do NO surgical procedures at all.
Wonder why?
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:58 AM
 
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Informedconsent, you do know that people here see through hour feigned "concern" for women's safety don't you?
Feigned concern? I'm female, and I have female family members. I'm pro-choice. But I think it's a BIG mistake to accept lower medical standards when surgical procedures are performed on women, than those required for anyone else obtaining services at a surgery center.
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Old 06-27-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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And when it hasn't? No.

Performing surgery on a woman without requiring the facility to meet surgery center standards is treating women like 2nd class citizens. Why liberals are adamant in going along with that is completely illogical.
Even pre ADA doorways are larger than 21" so no problem getting a stretcher in, and opening a medical clinic would require altering (additional lighting, more or moving electrical outlets) thus they would be required to come up to current ADA standards.
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Old 06-27-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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Huge fail...you should read what you are linking because you just destroyed your own case of requiring abortions to be done in surgical centers

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"Surgical abortion, also known as suction aspiration abortion, can be performed in a one-day procedure if less than 14 weeks have passed since the first day of your last menstrual period. The procedure is done in the doctor's office with local anesthesia and oral pain-relieving medications.
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Old 06-27-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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Feigned concern? I'm female, and I have female family members. I'm pro-choice. But I think it's a BIG mistake to accept lower medical standards when surgical procedures are performed on women, than those required for anyone else obtaining services at a surgery center.
Well, as another female who had an abortion in a clinic with no complications, I disagree. And so does most of the medical profession. And the millions of abortions which were performed without incident outside of surgical centers also contradicts you.

I know, I know, you think that you, Informed Consent, know much better than doctors who perform these procedures, but guess what? No one else thinks your opinion outweighs the medical community.

Don't get an abortion and you will have nothing to worry about. Problem solved.
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Old 06-27-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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Why go to a Catholic hospital for such a procedure?
Not a Catholic Hospital. A public hospital and regional center in a medium-sized city with a Catholic CEO and Board of Directors.
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Old 06-27-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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Feigned concern? I'm female, and I have female family members. I'm pro-choice. But I think it's a BIG mistake to accept lower medical standards when surgical procedures are performed on women, than those required for anyone else obtaining services at a surgery center.
Then why weren't ALL providers of outpatient surgical procedures required to operate at surgical center standards?
Why were NON surgical abortion providers required to operate at surgical center standards? What is surgical about prescribing a pill?
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