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Old 06-27-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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What do Obstetricians from the AMA know about births or abortion, Abbotts attorneys know better
HAHAHAHA! This one just got me tittering.
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Old 06-27-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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And people don't check into things like that before they choose to live there? Personal responsibility goes a long way...
Now you're just flailing. It's just sad. A stunning defeat I know. And even that magic 5th Conservative Justice couldn't fix it because at the end of the day no on wants to see America go back to the days when women really were 2nd Class Citizens. No one. No one that matters anyway.
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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a certain amount of killing is tolerated, even when someone does it with an assault rifle.
fify
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Here's the problem you don't understand... non-surgical abortions have a higher complication rate due to the induced abortion being incomplete. Guess what happens then... a surgical abortion must be performed, and at that point the procedure already has complications. Hence, the requirement for all abortion facilities to meet the same standards as surgery centers.
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People who get abortions are less likely to have complications than people who have their wisdom teeth removed, finds a new study published in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...VDL5LZysXO9PUQ

And here are a bunch of statistics:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...lAE-OU0seh4qtw
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:08 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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How dare Texas require medical doctors adhere to the same medical requirements as health clinics <sarcasm>. Perhaps these US Supreme Court Justices should have visited abortion clinics that have cleanliness on par with a slaughterhouse.

And which ones would those be?

Names & addresses?

Or just more smokescreen?
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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A certain amount of Killing is tolerated unless someone does it with an assault rifle.
The assault rifle killings are the ones that are tolerated by many of the very same people who would have you believe their alleged concern for life extends to blastocysts.
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Public hospital? You mean like Stroger in Chicago? I'm calling BS on that as a public facility cannot impose religious beliefs on those they serve.
Laughing my ass off!

Tell that to the politicians who are quite verbal about their hatred of legal abortion, citing their religious beliefs and attempting to pass BS laws. How much more 'public' can one get than being a politician?
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Oh, absolutely, FatBob, women should definitely NEVER have sex with any man unless she WANTS to become pregnant.
Not saying that.....but there has to be some level of risk acceptance.
And the moral acceptance of risk comes with moral acceptance of responsibility.

Intelligent, responsible and moral women accept the responsibility or find ways to reduce the risk before pregnacy occurs.

Do mistakes happen? Sure ....BC fails occasionally.

But the vast majority of abortions are not done because of failed BC.

They are done as a matter of convenience to the "intelligent responsible and moral" women who think that it won't happen to them.
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:18 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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And people don't check into things like that before they choose to live there? Personal responsibility goes a long way...
Personal responsibility? Really? You're going to go there?

Six generations of my family had lived in or near this city by the time I was born! I did not move there; I had spent my entire life there. My family was there. My job was there. People do not typically check up on the religious affiliation of their city hospital's Board of Directors to ensure they aren't preventing their physicians from providing a legal (and not particularly complex) medical procedure. It's a regional center for pity's sake. If you have a weird gynecological disease or condition, that's where you go, because that's where the experts practice. There is no logical reason why the hospital denies abortion other than the religious fervor of its directors. When a hospital strong-arms doctors out of practicing abortion and denies admitting privileges to any doctor who steps up to meet the requirement that will keep the local clinic open, they effectively rescind access to the procedure for all women who cannot travel to the distant university hospital where the procedure can be done. That's a huge problem! So you keep pretending that it's about protecting women's health, but I see through your nonsense.

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Old 06-27-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: louisville
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I do find it interesting no comments on my situation...
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