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Old 09-19-2016, 07:27 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Fundamentalist Muslims should not come to the West at all. And neither should Westerners go and "lay waste" to their countries.
Just saying that that is the only way a country anywhere can pacify a Muslim minority, not saying we should wage war on the Middle East. But if Israel wants peace they need to do to "Palestine" what the Russians did to Chechnya and what the Chinese are doing in western China with the Uighur population. The Chechens were as brutal as the Palestinians in their violent jihad and suicide bombings but enough Russian firepower, including razing Chechnya to the ground completely, did force them to concede defeat and now the Chechens live peacefully as good Russian citizens.

I disagree with Putin on Ukraine but he knows how to handle Muslim terrorism a lot better than Obama or Hillary.

Domestically we must make clear to the Muslims here that we are a Judeo-Christian nation, that we will NOT give in to their demands to have their holidays off from school, to have halal food in soup kitchens, to cater to Muslim cashiers who refuse to serve customers with alcohol and pork products or make other special accomodations for them... the more we do that, it makes us look weak and they will demand more and more. In the UK they demanded that KFC not have alcohol containing hand wipes because that offends Islam.
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Japan
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The bold makes no sense.
Sudan.
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:47 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I disagree with the London mayor on this one.

Assimilation to me is showing respect for the dominant culture, the history, the heritage, and the future vision of the country.

Assimilation does NOT mean you have to change your religion or learn to cook your meals differently ... Poles, Italians, Jews, Irish, Hindus, and others have all assimilated beautifully without forsaking their ancient cultures and identities.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:08 PM
 
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No need or requirement for people immigrating to the USA to assimilate.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:08 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I disagree with the London mayor on this one.

Assimilation to me is showing respect for the dominant culture, the history, the heritage, and the future vision of the country.

Assimilation does NOT mean you have to change your religion or learn to cook your meals differently ... Poles, Italians, Jews, Irish, Hindus, and others have all assimilated beautifully without forsaking their ancient cultures and identities.



Exactly! and thank you my ancestors sure as hell learned to assimilate, learn the language, accent and all. But what really gets me to this day, even after many have passed, is the pride they had in becoming an American Citizen, I mean really proud to live in this Country. They appreciated it the way it should be.


It just shows who has respect, and who does not.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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I disagree with the London mayor on this one.

Assimilation to me is showing respect for the dominant culture, the history, the heritage, and the future vision of the country.

Assimilation does NOT mean you have to change your religion or learn to cook your meals differently ... Poles, Italians, Jews, Irish, Hindus, and others have all assimilated beautifully without forsaking their ancient cultures and identities.
This is a good point they keep their roots and embrace their new home. Muslims make no effort in becoming American or English.


All immigrants should be grades on how they cope with American or UK Culture. If not they should be deported. Finally If the good will of the people in UK extend to these immigrants. Immigrants should show respect to the New Country!
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Old 09-20-2016, 12:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Go for it. And get out there and get it done. Start murdering innocent people cause of their religion. You will be shot dead in the street like a dog if you become said murderer.

Wouldn't be the first time someone gave the ultimate sacrifice, to free others he did not know from oppression and hate.
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Old 09-20-2016, 01:30 AM
 
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Sudan.
Again, makes no sense. Clearly people don't have a clue about Africa.

Scores of Africans, outside of North Africa, ARE Muslim. So-called "black" Africans, for the race-centered types.

Senegal is 95% Muslim. Mali is 95% Muslim. Nigeria is 50% Muslim. Benin is 24% Muslim. Ghana is 18%.

Islam has a long history in Africa - East, West etc. Stop classifying non-Arab Africans as non-Muslim. That is FAR from reality.
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is a good point they keep their roots and embrace their new home. Muslims make no effort in becoming American or English.


All immigrants should be grades on how they cope with American or UK Culture. If not they should be deported. Finally If the good will of the people in UK extend to these immigrants. Immigrants should show respect to the New Country!
That is not true at all, how many Muslims do you know that don't speak English?
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Old 09-20-2016, 09:42 AM
 
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The bold makes no sense.

Scores of Africans, outside of North Africa, ARE Muslim. So-called "black" Africans, for the race-centered types.

Senegal is 95% Muslim. Mali is 95% Muslim. Nigeria is 50% Muslim. Benin is 24% Muslim. Ghana is 18%.

Islam has a long history in Africa - East, West etc. Stop classifying non-Arab Africans as non-Muslim. You couldn't be further from reality.
A lot of Arabs and Pakistanis are as racist as any redneck you can imagine.

Also, a lot of Africans tend to practice more liberal forms of Islam more influenced by Sufism and the Ahmadi sect. Africa has the highest concentration of Ahmadiyya outside of the Indian subcontinent.

And a good portion of the Civil War in Sudan has been Muslim Arabs killing Muslim black people in Darfur.

And an aside, yes, Islam has a long history in Africa. There was the Arab Slave Trade which began several hundred years before the Atlantic Slave Trade, ended several decades after, and enslaved several million more people. So there is that.
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