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Old 01-04-2017, 08:54 PM
 
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Yawns. Undocumented residents need only have a citizen send it for them.

Then what? We start monitoring the financial transactions of citizens?

I just laugh at how FASCIST youve all become.


I agree. Guarding the border , monitoring transactions is a pretty crappy solution. I don't even really care if Mexicans come here to work. In fact I'd be fine if they came here , worked and paid their own way. However they receive social benefits , and show up to our emergency rooms free ESL course and all that crap. . They don't pay SS withholding , taxes or sign up for the draft. That is the problem with socialism. Can't have open borders with it. Trump is simply better than socialism with no border. Its socialism with a border, and better than nothing at all.
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Old 01-04-2017, 08:58 PM
 
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Hey Montclair, is this the kind of anti-Trump payback you were talking about?

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Old 01-04-2017, 09:17 PM
 
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All his anti-Mexican rhetoric has led to this...lol



Mexico Proposes Legislation To Counter Border Wall Expansion | Fronteras Desk
They can most likely try this.......I see the USA still having the upper-hand. I don't think they're thinking this one out.
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Old 01-04-2017, 10:11 PM
 
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Yeap, The issue here is that NAFTA was a deal signed by USA it was not imposed by Mexico, and NAFTA had consecuenses in both sides of the border in your side some people who were working making Shirts plants and othe manufactures lost their Jobs, In our side many of our Companies were purchazed by US conglomerates and their Profit was grigolized, taken away from Mexico reinvestment and shared to Stock owners in New York.


So, Our Assets were alienated from our country, and your Jobs were exported here where wages remained low, they never went up. So now that Your President elected is wanting your Jobs to go back to USA we in Mexico want Our Assets to come back to Mexican Hands.


In the other side, Your country wanting to Punish Mexico to pay a Wall by increasing fares on Exportations, is an extrajurisdictional movement violatory of current signed treaties, and of international law. thus we can put compensatory moves validated by the World Trade Organization to punish US profit in Mexico as far as to compensate any Trumpist atempt to make harm to México.




Stop the illegal movement and Cartels and we won't need a Wall.
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Old 01-04-2017, 10:38 PM
 
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Just like they are totally ignoring Trump's rhetoric about paying for his border wall.

That's the funniest joke of all. Mexicans still chuckle about that.
Really? Mexicans don't have much to chuckle about. Their country is in shambles and now their lifeline (America) is cutting more of their jobs.

Chuckle, chuckle.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:57 PM
 
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Trump will eat them alive.
No problem : Maybe Flynn can commision HAARP to unleash some kind of scalar weapon on Mexico City and cause a mega earthquake down there.....And if they'e lucky, they might even knock out moonbeam up north too...
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:03 AM
 
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Stop the illegal movement and Cartels and we won't need a Wall.
Mexicans are Free to Move wherever they want in their country, if 12 million mexican want to live along side the border with USa we are Free to do it. Freedom of Movement is a Warranty for Mexican Citizens in Mexican territory.


Cartel are not a problem just this side of the Border, the problem is in both Sides of the Border, Would you mind to explain me Why in USA all drugs which crosses the border by tunnels under the Wall in San Diego is almost immediatly consumed by the Market of American Drug Addicts?


You want us to stop a Merchandize which is not sell internally but set to exportation, and even more, seems to me that the problem is not that this merchandize is made of Drugs, but the problem is that it is not produced in USA. Sincé California, Colorado and other states have legalized the recreative consumption of Marijuana. Thus the Problem is not drugs but MARKET SHARE.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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There are US Citizens that own homes, land, condos in Mexico. This would be seized(taken away from US owner with no payment and given to the Mexican government).

There are also US companies that operate non-manufacturing service sector businesses in Mexico - such as US based hotels that own and operation hotels and motels and resorts in Mexico. Hilton, Marriott, Hyatt and all the other American hotel chains have resorts in Mexico. Many of these companies are publicly traded stocks and are in people's 401Ks. If companies lose millions of dollars in assets (land, buildings, furnishings) then the stock prices would go down. This means people's 401k can be impacted.

There are US banks that have buildings in Mexico because they provide banking service to Mexico. Most US banks are publicly traded stocks.

There are US based car rental companies there with property (cars, land, buildings ) in Mexico. Car rental companies can be publicly traded stocks.

There are US based restaurants with chains in Mexico(such as McDonald's) . Their properties would be seized. MdDonald's is publicly traded. Anyone that owns that stock(either directly or via 401k or pension plan) is impacted.

Walmart and Costco have stores in Mexico. I am a Walmart stock holder. If Mexico takes Walmart property, any WMT stockholder is impacted.


That would be an act of war. Mexico could not win once the bombing started.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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For Decades Mexico Lived without USA, in those decades from 1920 to 1980 Mexico grew faster than Now, and it was that way because we were closed to US trasnationals and Mexico protected its internal market, yes we didn't have McDonald's or any othe fast food franchisement we grew on our own and we didn't needed the importation of Fuels from US.


Believe me, US can survive without us and we without you. We are almost 125 million people in a Country with Large international waters, lots of mineral resources, Lots of land to grow our own food. and lots of universities TUITION FREE to develop our own Technologies and to Copy all patents,




by the way in closed Economies Patent violation is unable to be punishable.
Then why are an estimated half million Mexican citizens fleeing Mexico every year and entering the US illegally. There are an estimated 12-15 million illegals living in the US now and that is probably underestimated.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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Then why are an estimated half million Mexican citizens fleeing Mexico every year and entering the US illegally. There are an estimated 12-15 million illegals living in the US now and that is probably underestimated.
It is more like 50 million if you count their illegal offspring born here who are also illegal.
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