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Old 01-06-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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We'll see about that, won't we.
It will be happening. Not all 11 million but there will be millions less illegals in this country and there will be zero new illegals coming it.
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Old 01-06-2017, 03:58 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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History repeats itself--
How do you think the Saudis got all the infrastructure for their oil system---
Took it over from the companies that had the contracts and built it and thought they had an agreement with SA to continue the partnership until the oil was gone...
Same way the Suez Canal was confiscated after European and American money went to build it and run it

Mexico has done this before when it nationalized its oil industry in the 30s---
You know American companies were involved in discovering and producing the oil

List of countries with nationalizations they have gone through---
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ons_by_country
Mexico just deregulated their oil industry beginning last week. Immediate 20% price increase. Riots are ensuing. Regardless of what you think about them, it would appear you're taking own chances if you want to start to try calling their bluffs.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:23 PM
 
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Mexico considers seizing $100 billion in US-owned assets
Something people should consider before moving and buying in banana republics and debt ridden European Nations as well.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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And this leads to the other problem which might even be worse, legal immigrants who go on welfare.
Over half are already on welfare. Welfare Use by Immigrant and Native Households | Center for Immigration Studies

Why do you think democrats want more immigration? Out the kindness of their goody two shoes hearts.

Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

They want more immigrants because the immigrants they let in are government dependent minded people.

Double lolz for planting them in Lilly white America.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Honestly we should just annex Mexico, with force or not... divide it up onto states, execute all the drug dealers and corrupt police.. no more mister nice guy with corrupt criminal types... we need more warm climate to settle in... all we got is Florida... would be a great economic expansion project, national debt be damned... modernizing Mexico and having all that warm climate to move too... I'd quit my job and either join the Military or join a construction trade to help with it all.. or I wanted to back when I was really in my prime 10 years ago. This has been a longstanding view of mine...

You Sir, have Presidential potential written all over you ! Call Trump, he is looking for some good, like minded people !

There is one thing about this "wall" deal that Trump does not realize. Let's say he does force all these companies to come back to the US and he builds the wall. Suddenly, a whole lot of Mexicans are going to be out of work, and guess where they will be headed ? Yep, right here.

As for the wall, you could not build it high enough to stop people from getting in. You could electrify it, put armed guards every 10 feet, and surround it with an alligator filled moat, and they will still get in. Nothing has ever stopped desperate people from getting to a better life and a paycheck.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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You Sir, have Presidential potential written all over you ! Call Trump, he is looking for some good, like minded people !

There is one thing about this "wall" deal that Trump does not realize. Let's say he does force all these companies to come back to the US and he builds the wall. Suddenly, a whole lot of Mexicans are going to be out of work, and guess where they will be headed ? Yep, right here.

As for the wall, you could not build it high enough to stop people from getting in. You could electrify it, put armed guards every 10 feet, and surround it with an alligator filled moat, and they will still get in. Nothing has ever stopped desperate people from getting to a better life and a paycheck.
The Berlin wall worked well even tho the Germans on BOTH sides hated it.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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You Sir, have Presidential potential written all over you ! Call Trump, he is looking for some good, like minded people !

There is one thing about this "wall" deal that Trump does not realize. Let's say he does force all these companies to come back to the US and he builds the wall. Suddenly, a whole lot of Mexicans are going to be out of work, and guess where they will be headed ? Yep, right here.

As for the wall, you could not build it high enough to stop people from getting in. You could electrify it, put armed guards every 10 feet, and surround it with an alligator filled moat, and they will still get in. Nothing has ever stopped desperate people from getting to a better life and a paycheck.

The wall would cut back illegal immigration in significant numbers. We don't expect it to be 100% effective. Seems like those who keep make excuses why it can't or shouldn't be built are illegal alien sympathizers. It is so transparent. I have already posted a couple of links denoting how the tall double wall has already been proven successful in the places where it has already been erected. But alas, as I said the nay sayers are usually illegal alien sympathizers and they don't even try to hide it very well.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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Well yes, cramming into living spaces does reset the subsistence level...anyhow. I did address the social safety net as the main problem.

What I am saying is migrating to work is the least bad. Its the people that come here to become leaches. They have free time to promote themselves more political benefits ,and to engage in crime. The wall is the least effective measure. So long as easy rewards remain, it is only a stop gap. The way it used to be is if people did not do well, they left. The Islamic migrant problem in Europe is a joke. They successfully go on public assistance. If the host country were not socialist, they wouldn't be there.

Lets not exaggerate the Latino problem. Its a policy problem , our policy.

Latino problem? No, it's an illegal alien problem. It's still bad to migrate here illegally to work as many Americans lost their jobs to them because they work for less and it has reduced wages for them also.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Yes his name is Vlad.
Yes indeed, I wonder how long it will take people to realize they got hoodwinked?
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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The wall would cut back illegal immigration in significant numbers. We don't expect it to be 100% effective. Seems like those who keep make excuses why it can't or shouldn't be built are illegal alien sympathizers. It is so transparent. I have already posted a couple of links denoting how the tall double wall has already been proven successful in the places where it has already been erected. But alas, as I said the nay sayers are usually illegal alien sympathizers and they don't even try to hide it very well.
But you always forget to post the sources about the difficulty of building a wall in the middle of the Rio Grande, or the problems that the US has faced for over 20 years in trying to buy land to build the existing fencing, or the fact that if you build a wall you can always tunnel under it, or easier yet, just get a fake passport and book passage on a plane to the US. The wall was just another soon to be broken campaign promise, just like how Trump promised he won't touch Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security
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