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Can you cite where in Obamacare it made it illegal to negotiate drug prices ????
As for "so what?" well, it negates your argument about individuals and purchasing drugs.
You are back to talking about the government and companies/pharmacies purchasing drugs. Which again, isnt revenue neutral.
I'll attack Booker's stance on this when Sanders and Amy Klobuchar out forth a bill separate of the budget and he votes that down.
No you won't.
Another former lawmaker, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), who was the House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman at the time, said there is a simple explanation for why the law doesn’t do more to rein in drugmakers. “The Obama administration decided to make a deal with the PhRMA to get them to support the legislation,”
Not sure I understand the point of this post. Is it to bash the 39 Republicans who voted against it vs. the 12 Republicans who voted for it?
Or to point out that 32 Dems voted for it and 13 against it?
Or just to bash Booker?
It's to bash all that voted against it. The thing is, the GOP is pretty much expected to do the wrong thing and not vote for this. Some did. Enough for it to have passed if the (D)'s which one would expect to vote for it, would have.
There was no "bill" for importing drugs from Canada. It was the GOP's Senate change in budget procedure. Someone tacked onto the bill an amendment for importing drugs from Canada. Importing drugs from Canada is not going to get passed as a tacked-on amendment to a budget bill. It will have to be a separate proposal, probably by a Senator with some clout in the Senate. Most of the Senate voted against the amendment. And yes...many of the politicians of both parties are in the pocket of Big Pharma.
Those who voted against that particular amendment (there were a LOT of amendments to the budget bill; most of them were voted against):
Want to make meds cheaper? For starters get rid of prescription drugs and have them all sold over the counter,competition will bring prices down like it does every other product that is sold in a free market.
Want to make meds cheaper? For starters get rid of prescription drugs and have them all sold over the counter,competition will bring prices down like it does every other product that is sold in a free market.
Drugs under patent are protected from competition.
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No you won't.
Sure I will, I dont even like Cory Booker. But I dislike people making up false arguments to attack others.
Just like I did with Scott Walker on his college degree, I will defend Booker an the other Democrats on this.
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Another former lawmaker, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), who was the House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman at the time, said there is a simple explanation for why the law doesn’t do more to rein in drugmakers. “The Obama administration decided to make a deal with the PhRMA to get them to support the legislation,”
Obama climbed into bed with the drug companies if you prefer.
Your comment from Waxman is stand alone, there is nothing to back it up. The quote ends there. In fact the article goes on to say
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Obamacare did little, if anything, to rein in the price of prescriptions. That’s partly because the issue wasn’t nearly as prominent six years ago as it is today. Another reason is that the ACA passed by a thread, and lawmakers who worked to pass it said they did the best they could at the time.
The article also mentions that Insurance companies shifted cost from themselves to customers here
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Drugmakers say the fault lies with insurers that shift costs to consumers more for drugs than they do for hospital and medical care. Insurers say that’s because drugs are expensive and everyone feels the brunt of it. The truth is that both are right. The Affordable Care Act helped create this tension.......
By contrast, Obamacare is full of new rules governing insurance and is a radical departure from the way the market used to operate. It requires insurers to cover a wider array of benefits while it prohibits them from denying coverage based on preexisting conditions. It institutes new rules regarding how insurers set premiums. It limits insurers’ revenues and creates new standards of premium rate reviews. It also creates significant rules about plans’ benefit design, limiting cost-sharing, and setting up a system of tiers based on the share of costs covered by a particular plan.
These changes upended the health insurance market, and insurers’ have been forced to adapt. The catch is that insurers reflect the costs of health care in general, even more so now that there are caps on how much of a plan’s revenue can be used for marketing, administration and profits.
The article makes the claim that Democrats didnt try, not that they circumvented it as you claimed. heck, the title of your article is
Why Prescription Drugs Aren’t Part of Obamacare.
I think next time, you should read more than one paragraph of the source material.
The fact is in the last decade the pharmaceutical industry has underperformed versus the stock market as a whole. Liberals wish to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
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The fact is in the last decade the pharmaceutical industry has underperformed versus the stock market as a whole. Liberals wish to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
It's to bash all that voted against it. The thing is, the GOP is pretty much expected to do the wrong thing and not vote for this. Some did. Enough for it to have passed if the (D)'s which one would expect to vote for it, would have.
Interesting.
Does that mean that people who vote for GOP reps are expecting them to do the wrong thing, or are they just misguided?
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