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A very large chunk of Trump's followers are right wing authoritarians.
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Right-wing authoritarians are people who have a high degree of willingness to submit to authorities they perceive as established and legitimate, who adhere to societal conventions and norms, and who are hostile and punitive in their attitudes towards people who don't adhere to them. They value uniformity and are in favour of using group authority, including coercion, to achieve it
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Bahahaaha...which is why many libertarians backed him. Your side follows the group think, jacked booted goon squads. That is why the media is so effective on you as your eyes spiral in obedience. And if the old guard religious Conservatives were dragged kicking and scream despite Melania 's sexy times in front of the camera, you have Islam, the worst of the fascist goon group think authoritarians. Bahahahaa....
Oh Jeebus - 8 years of "I did not have sex with that woman" and 8 years of "if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it" and now you have your panties in a bunch about how many angels were in fact dancing on the head of the pin?
I see the left is a little slow as usual. Trump blusters and exaggerates. It is not lying with an attempt to deceive. Of course Trump does decisive like all politicians, but ironically less so than most of the politely spoken spin doctors.
Classic case of a Trump bluster is the "Hillary would be in jail" comment. He tells fishing stories. Everyone know what these are.
The left on the other hand deliberately lied and manipulated Trump's statement of deporting all Mexicans and calling all Mexicans rapists. There is a lot of rape going on crossing the border and not all Mexicans cross the border, especially illegally.
I think what you really want to ask is why don't those stupid, red neck, uneducated, unevolved, deplorable Trump supporters believe all the fabricated misleading political spin thrown out by the left party machine?
I have to wonder why all the socialists and progressive actually believe the lies and half truths. There is no fact checking, or getting the whole story, or looking at both sides of an argument in socialist land? Just clip out everything that doesn't support your agenda?
If you "progressives" ever really listened to yourselves, you'd understand why middle America is sick and tired of your self-centered rule by guilt and bigotry.
Some of Trump's lies. These are just a few of them....
"Muslims were jumping up and down cheering when the 9/11 jets flew into the Twin Towers."
"I will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it"
"Obama was not born in the United States"
"There is massive voter fraud in elections"
"I gave a $102 million to charities". He won't let anyone see his tax returns to confirm but organization that track charitable giving label Trump one of the stingiest billionaires.
"Ted Cruz bought the rights to nude photos of Melania Trump". That has been debunked.
"China pays no import tax on goods sole in the US". Total lie. China pays import duties.
Trump called Bush a liar in an interview. He later denied saying that despite the video of him saying it.
Trump said US GDP was zero. It was more than 1% when he said that.
Trump said the US budget had money in it for ISIS. Huh? Show us where that is. He cannot.
"I am self funding my campaign and don't accept money". But when he said that he had accepted millions of dollars according to filings.
Trump said the 9/11 hijackers had wives who knew what was up. Truth is, None of the hijackers was married.
He said in an interview that he handpicked professors at Trump University. But in a legal deposition for a law suit against Trump U, he said just the opposite. One of those statements is a lie.
Trump said on 60 Minutes that he favors single-payer healthcare plan in the US. In a debate with Cruz he said that he never said that. Clearly a lie.
Trump said he was against Iraq war and made public statements to that effect. There is no record of Trump ever saying that.
Trump claims that he can save Medicare 300 billion on drugs but the entire drug budget for Medicare is only 80 billion. He made up numbers.
Trump claimed 80% of murdered white people are due to black perpetrators. It is just the opposite - 80% of whites killed are killed by other whites.
Trump claimed he did not go to Vietnam because of a high draft number. Total lie as draft numbers were not even used until he was no longer eligible. He avoided military service with college deferments and a medical excuse.
Trump claimed he only hired Americans but got caught hiring undocumented Polish workers and he admitted lying about it!!!
Yeah I can tell you another one that gets me:
"I hate rich people..I don't get along with them." *makes his whole cabinet rich people* I'll never forget this one.
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My issue is not so much that Trump has shaded the truth some in the past, as all politicians do. It is more about his willingness to expect his followers to believe him when there is ample physical evidence that he is completely lying, in photos and video of not just this inauguration lie, but others told throughout the campaign. The inauguration crowd lie is just sort of the straw that breaks the camels back, so to speak.
My issue is with his supporters, and why they are so willing to believe him over actual evidence, believe him every time he screams about fake news , and why they dont get insulted by his demeaning expectation that they are stupid enough to accept his lies. This is not the way intelligent people react. Intelligent people get offended when brazenly lied to about something they can see is a lie easily for themselves, because the person lying to you thinks you are too stupid to grasp he is lying. This is the mind boggling part for me. Trump isnt insulting his opponents or the media, they dont buy his lies and he knows they dont. He is lying to his base, and has, accurately it seems, judged them too stupid to understand he is lying.
As I keep saying, because it is the most apt description I know, its just bizarre for Trump supporters to react to his belief they are all stupid with slavish acceptance of his lying that confirms his belief in the level of their intelligence .
Mmm I prefer people to be honest and certain circumstances when people lie to me upset me (like employers ) but even I know the world is built on lies. You have to expect it with politicians especially so I wouldn't have a problem if he simply told some lies but the fact that he lies AND gets mad when people attack him for it/him in general. That is the issue.
You do not get to lie and then get mad when people call you out on it. I can see drawing attention to it a few times but he does it every time someone criticizes him. Check your attitude. He can't even take a simple joke about himself.
What it all boils down to: they think he is their savior just because he "says what they're thinking"
Why? I don't know for sure but I think they are really bad at analyzing. They're as simple minded as he is. They don't grasp that he is doing all this just to get your blind praise. Like Bill Maher said something will change for the better while he's in office and he'll put his name on it just to make you think he did it. He's probably been like this his whole life.
The more I see of it the more I think we have a cult because as you said the evidence is right there in front of your eyes but yet they attack the other side for lying when there isn't nearly as much evidence.
I always say a picture is worth a thousand words and Trumps pictures and video footage says it all.
If you're going to attack the other side at least be consistent and admit to the wrongdoing.
Yeah I can tell you another one that gets me:
"I hate rich people..I don't get along with them." *makes his whole cabinet rich people* I'll never forget this one.
Mmm I prefer people to be honest and certain circumstances when people lie to me upset me (like employers ) but even I know the world is built on lies. You have to expect it with politicians especially so I wouldn't have a problem if he simply told some lies but the fact that he lies AND gets mad when people attack him for it/him in general. That is the issue.
You do not get to lie and then get mad when people call you out on it. I can see drawing attention to it a few times but he does it every time someone criticizes him. Check your attitude. He can't even take a simple joke about himself.
What it all boils down to: they think he is their savior just because he "says what they're thinking"
Why? I don't know for sure but I think they are really bad at analyzing. They're as simple minded as he is. They don't grasp that he is doing all this just to get your blind praise. Like Bill Maher said something will change for the better while he's in office and he'll put his name on it just to make you think he did it. He's probably been like this his whole life.
The more I see of it the more I think we have a cult because as you said the evidence is right there in front of your eyes but yet they attack the other side for lying when there isn't nearly as much evidence.
I always say a picture is worth a thousand words and Trumps pictures and video footage says it all.
If you're going to attack the other side at least be consistent and admit to the wrongdoing.
Very Good.. It is so sad that his supporters are not aware in the facts of things to see this man for what he is.
Republican railed and whined about President Obama using Executive Orders, but never did they mention President Obama used them, when Congress refused to act. Trump comes in and he uses them as a first choice option. Republican congress are smiling now, but when they don't do what he say's, they will be the ones whining about him using Executive Orders. He is taking actions on things he know nothing about. The idiotic freeze at the EPA is the acts of one who is foolish. That amounts to something as silly as a white water rafter, trying to stop their raft headed down a rocky stream, while they use a buck knife to whittle a paddle out of a crooked tree limb.
He has no idea what the role of President is. It's to build upon what this nation has spent 100's of years building. No regulation just happens, many lives have been impacted and much research goes into action long before a regulation becomes a regulation. This imbecilic man, has no idea. This is not like building some 3/4 of a block building. or going into open land and cutting the grass and installing a few putting greens.
It likely will take a major disaster to shake awake the minions that are obsessed over him. But when many of his followers figure out just how dependent they are on the system, and he strips that back and cause them hardships, only then will they awaken to learn to respect government and what is has previously created to benefit people. Too many take so much for granted, and are blinded by false reporting about just who uses public services. When its stripped and taken, they will realize just how and what that 4:1 and 7:1 ratio of poor whites, rural living whites, and Rust Belt and Appalachians and others rely on government programs, they will learn how government contracts is what kept them afloat, but they will also see a mass of their own Right Winger who have made small fortunate from ripping off government contracts and stringing out grants to benefit themselves, and produce as little as possible. Because it is certain this group will start wining, and likely they will be the first group. Because many of the various degree riders who call themselves professionals, will find out that Government Grants from HUD under Carson will be damaged, and Government Grants under many agencies will be threatened and diminished. Trump is like a real life Confederate Ideologist, who see's the people are nothing more than the "service class", and he wants that service to continue for as little as possible. As if to usher in a new season of "indentured servitude". Just as he brought in seasonal immigrants to do work at his resorts, he has no idea what stabilizes an American Family, he has no concept of what is the mentality of "community", because he has never had any dealing with real time, Average American Community. neither he nor Carson, Carson rode his popularity of being a Surgeon into the elite avenues among other bigoted elites who make decisions that are in their best interest and for the sake of their stature and egotist label worshiping of titles. These were and are the Medical Board and other Executives who do not make decision as to what is good for life and people, they make decision based on what is mal-practice insurance cost and how to do the least to avoid a suit. Then the patient gets what's left as a treatment plan.
It's really a sad situation when so many poor and unaware people are so uninformed as to how systems work among the title chasers and wealth gatherers. Their concepts are not the same, they don't live in the same world as the average workers. University deluded them to think they are special, and it then has filled them often times with a subservient mentality to pander to and patronize power. They learned it every day as they filled class rooms kissing up to professors for a grade. When they get in the business climate they have the very same mentality, they don't improve things, they spin is a circle of trying to protect their gravy bowl and they want theirs from the skillet before anyone else, and their concern does not involve whether there is any gravy for anyone else, for that matter, they often don't care if there is even dry rice left from the workers. as longs as their's is covered with gravy in a larger bowl than anyone else.
We see them everyday. Its the same followers who worship Trump who go to jobs and see it come home and complain about it, and now they are anguished and have hope that one of the worst money gatherers of the 20th and thus far in the 21st Century is going to give them something. This is the same man who did practically a billion dollar tax dodge in a single year, therefore, people are unaware to consider the likely fact, that he did similar tax dodges in the successive years. Likely if his profits and wealth claims were examined closely, it would amount to basically a similar amount that he gained from his tax dodges. Otherwise he'd be over-leveraged in all of his business enterprises. This is the same man who filled his pockets with bankruptcies debt restructuring, to avoid paying what he owes. This is the basis of his wealth. Not Business Success !!!!! It is tax dodges and fleecing contractors and vendors and it is quite likely that he has strong streams of illegal money cleaning activities that involve Russian billionaires. To him he calls this "deals', to the American general public, it is an intricate maze of "graft', over inflation for the sake of "lure" to attract others peoples people, into his pyramids that he can fleece and walk out via bankruptcy, and claim himself to be smarter than the rest.
Now he says he wants to do good for American people. Well people need to awaken, many jobs left because of technology innovation, no longer did an office need so many people when the typewriter was replaced by the computer, the robots replaced people in all sorts of plants, wherehousing was changed by robotic fork lifts and digitally controlled conveyor system, automatic packing and wrapping machines, and many business folded over from opposition to modernize. So the Chinese who embraced every aspect of technology, created the new jobs for their people and they supplied massive labor because they know if their peoples hands are not busy, their society would not prosper. American did the exact opposite, they made sure that peoples hands touched as little of a product as possible, so they would not have to pay people and they could use machines to do the work, and when they could not use a machine they could use cheap labor from places like China, India, and any other low wage country.
There is no more smoke stack companies being created, and technology long ago diminished the need for people to shovel coal into a furnace to run a companies energy needs. Homes are no longer driven nor built to use basement level coal furnaces, so the Coal industry will never be what it was. It's the same as when Edison and Tesla and Electricity changed the system from standard oil selling kerosene for lamps and people's houses and business transitioned to use electricity. No longer was anyone needed to canvas city blocks filling up kerosene lamps for night lighting.
Trump supporters are chasing Nostalgia and he sold them a whole package of it. When the world and technology has changed everything. He is telling them, stuff that equates to telling people that street lamps will be retro fitted with kerosene tubes to pump kerosene to light the streets. Wake up people !!!
Look at your Cell Phone, as yourself, how did it change the system of hard wired Telephone being used in homes? No one is out buying home phones like they did in the 1960's, the phone company does not need people running wires to peoples homes, we no longer have an army of young and old people going around filling News Paper racks across the city, If people want the print news, they whip out their cell phone and read it. That's how things change, that's how jobs vanish and those jobs won't come back. You will never see a city filled with 20 phone booths along city blocks, you won't see people installing landlines in their home and you can't even find a TV repairman, you simply buy it, then when it quits you go buy another.
Man does not need to put someone on a Tractor to plow a filed, they have a GPS system that controls the tractor and now with driver less vehicles, they can have the automated tractor to plow the filed and they don't have 10 workers driving tractors. They have on person running a computer panel to make sure the signals are sent to the tractors, and likely a database system will eventually coordinate that too.
So, The Nostalgia that Trump has duped people to think, is not reality. President Obama tried to tell people the Truth, but white society has been groomed since the days of Jim Crow, with the idea that a black person is not qualified to tell a white person anything, so they disregard what President Obama said, and they failed to support his initiative to build new systems based on new technology, and we began to lag in innovation, because white people supported politicians who made a pledge to fight anything and everything President Obama supported and promoted. Now, you have Mr. Nostalgia telling you, that he is going to do away with technology and have people shoveling coal in furnaces, and out with a mule and a plow to turn a field, and people are so busy chasing nostalgia until they bought into this idiocy.
WAKE UP PEOPLE.................... you can't turn back the hands of time. The future will come, it will either prosper you if you learn to change and adapt, improve and modify and learn, or if you cling to trying to repeat the past, it will bury you by the new innovation it brings.
A very large chunk of Trump's followers are right wing authoritarians.
And they have been so brainwashed they cannot see the lies!!
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) but even I know the world is built on lies. You have to expect it with politicians especially so I wouldn't have a problem if he simply told some lies but the fact that he lies AND gets mad when people attack him for it/him in general. That is the issue.
You can't Turn Back the Hands of Time
