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Old 01-30-2017, 06:04 PM
 
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I'll repeat Enigma777...

What exactly is the fake news according to your accusation?
Trying to pass the executive order off as a Muslim ban, when the only country who even makes the list of countries with 10 largest Muslims countries is the only 1 of the 7 that isn't an active warzone.

(Iran - who today tested an ICBM against UN resolution)
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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Fire her.
For following the law? Now that would mean that we a have dictator who is circumventing the rule of law.. you do realize that don't you?
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Ontario, NY
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CNN is reporting that the Acting Head of the Justice Dept just announced that she has instructed the department not to defend Trump's EO banning Muslims from entering the US. Stunning.
Why is it Mutiny? Does the justice department have to agree with everything the president does, blindly following him like lemmings? The United States political system is designed to have checks and balances, this prevents one madman from turning the country into a dictatorship. I don't know if Trump's Travel ban is legal or not, but I feel good that the Justice department is at least challenging the President's executive order, instead of blindly being the presidents Yes men.
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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Cool story, but he actually just used the list of seven "countries of concern" compiled by the Obama admin. The Obama admin said these seven countries are where potential terrorists are most likely to come from.

Maybe if he attended the daily intel briefings, he'd be able to make a decision based on the most current intel. Besides, as much as he criticized Obama, why is he cheating off Obama's paper, so to speak...
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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For following the law? Now that would mean that we a have dictator who is circumventing the rule of law.. you do realize that don't you?

Thing is, she is not following the law signed by Trump. Just another snowflake reactionary, making a stand, so she doesn't get virtue signaled by her fellow Progressives.

It was just a one day thing, that people 102 people were detained. They were in transit when the law was passed. Now they get the screening before boarding the planes. They found one and sent them back to their country and did not let them the privilege to re-enter. Too many red flags for that traveler.
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Trying to pass the executive order off as a Muslim ban, when the only country who even makes the list of countries with 10 largest Muslims countries is the only 1 of the 7 that isn't an active warzone.

(Iran - who today tested an ICBM against UN resolution)
And I still do not understand what you are trying to say is the reason these 7 countries were picked? There are other countries with active war zones.

How does banning these 7 countries keep us 'safer' if Pakistan (active war zone) and country terrorists have been radicalized and lived is not on the list?

So who of those who were detained over the weekend, or denied entry or turned around and sent home were not muslims?

And could you please explain why Trump felt it necessary to prioritize christian refugees over muslims if this is in no way related to religion?

Trump says US will prioritize Christian refugees - CNNPolitics.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/u...mmigrants.html
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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Why is it Mutiny? Does the justice department have to agree with everything the president does, blindly following him like lemmings? The United States political system is designed to have checks and balances, this prevents one madman from turning the country into a dictatorship. I don't know if Trump's Travel ban is legal or not, but I feel good that the Justice department is at least challenging the President's executive order, instead of blindly being the presidents Yes men.
Isn't that the job of the courts and not the justice department though?
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:18 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Trying to pass the executive order off as a Muslim ban, when the only country who even makes the list of countries with 10 largest Muslims countries is the only 1 of the 7 that isn't an active warzone.

(Iran - who today tested an ICBM against UN resolution)
So... the fake news is originating from Giuliani then????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGOwEOTYfuE

skip to 3:00

along with

WATCH: Rudy Giuliani Admits to Fox News Trump Asked Him for a 'Muslim Ban' and a Way to Do It 'Legally' - The New Civil Rights Movement

(It was on fox news but I couldn't find anything on their site reporting it.... had to go to youtube.)

Also, what about the Trump's statements to give priority to Christian refugees over Muslim....


I gave President Trump a pass that this isn't a Muslim specific ban nor a ban influenced by his businesses (countries not on the list have Trump business presence).... Just a badly crafted Exec Order. However, its getting freakin hard to keep doing so. At some point, I'm pretending to be blind and a Sheep.
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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And I still do not understand what you are trying to say is the reason these 7 countries were picked? There are other countries with active war zones.

How does banning these 7 countries keep us 'safer' if Pakistan (active war zone) and country terrorists have been radicalized and lived is not on the list?

So who of those who were detained over the weekend, or denied entry or turned around and sent home were not muslims?

And could you please explain why Trump felt it necessary to prioritize christian refugees over muslims if this is in no way related to religion?

Trump says US will prioritize Christian refugees - CNNPolitics.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/u...mmigrants.html
I did not see the word Christian anywhere in the executive order itself.
Do those countries have majority muslim populations? Yes, you can't spell ISIS without Islam.

Pakistan and Saudia Arabia are much more developed than most of the countries on that list. This was actually a list generated by the Obama administration of hotbeds of terrorism. So does that make this a suspension on hotbeds of terror or just large muslim populations?
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I did not see the word Christian anywhere in the executive order itself.
Do those countries have majority muslim populations? Yes, you can't spell ISIS without Islam.

Pakistan and Saudia Arabia are much more developed than most of the countries on that list. This was actually a list generated by the Obama administration of hotbeds of terrorism.
But the Obama list was generated in response to an actual threat. And Obama did not make a sweeping order as such.

"...The Obama administration passed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 after the November 2015 terrorist attacks in Paris. The Act, however, unlike Trump's much more broad order, only affected people eligible for the visa waiver programme, rather than suspend all citizens' travel from one of those seven countries..."
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