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You couldn't be more wrong. If walls aren't a deterrant then why do people have them around their homes and businesses? No one is saying that walls are 100% effective but they deter enough unwanted entry to make them feasible. No one is saying it's the only solution but it sure should be a part of it. I have posted two links proving that a good wall does work in places on the border where they have been built.
Doesn't matter what motive an illegal alien has for coming here they have no right to come here. Paying taxes, etc. does not excuse anyone for breaking the law not even our own citizens. The illegal you spoke of was probably employing other illegals. It's a fact that some do murder, rape, etc. We have enough of our own home grown criminals without having to deal with foreigners here illegally committing crimes also. Many of them are guilty of ID theft or tax evasion. Those are felonies!
No one has a right to a better life by breaking laws and taking from others what doesn't belong to them. Americans don't have better lives by illegals taking their jobs by working for less and being taxed thru the roof having to cover their enormous social costs not to mention our overcrowded schools, jails, hospitals, roads and neighborhoods because of them.
I gather from your posts that you have a vested interest in illegal immigration. The anti-wall people usually do.
I can prove to you American companies are hiring the illegal force... but see how you wont even talk about it-- why?---- all that- school etc. medical expenses- would go away with NO trabajo
You couldn't be more wrong. If walls aren't a deterrant then why do people have them around their homes and businesses? No one is saying that walls are 100% effective but they deter enough unwanted entry to make them feasible. No one is saying it's the only solution but it sure should be a part of it. I have posted two links proving that a good wall does work in places on the border where they have been built.
Doesn't matter what motive an illegal alien has for coming here they have no right to come here. Paying taxes, etc. does not excuse anyone for breaking the law not even our own citizens. The illegal you spoke of was probably employing other illegals. It's a fact that some do murder, rape, etc. We have enough of our own home grown criminals without having to deal with foreigners here illegally committing crimes also. Many of them are guilty of ID theft or tax evasion. Those are felonies!
No one has a right to a better life by breaking laws and taking from others what doesn't belong to them. Americans don't have better lives by illegals taking their jobs by working for less and being taxed thru the roof having to cover their enormous social costs not to mention our overcrowded schools, jails, hospitals, roads and neighborhoods because of them.
I gather from your posts that you have a vested interest in illegal immigration. The anti-wall people usually do.
Investing in e- Verify is cheaper and more effective if it became Federal Law. Imposing harsh penalties on those who choose not to comply would be a serious deterrent and pay for the technology.
In absence of a Federal Mandate, why has Texas or Florida, long time Republican controlled states, NOT made it a state law? It's obvious to the most casual observer, too many people and businesses financially benefit from the employment of undocumented people.
The Trump Wall represent the biggest Big Government boondoggle ever.
In my opinion, this is why you will be ignored. Your solution is a simple common sense solution. Many want to see extremes taking place.
Stupid is as stupid does.
We used to winter in the Yuma area and for many years witnessed all this crappola first hand.
Fences pile driven into river areas, balloons with infra red sensors on the end of cables a couple of hundred feet in the air, cherry picker trucks with longer booms with small sensor cabs at the tops of the booms, all manner of detection and observation methods being used ...they still easily got into the country. The ones you caught would get bused back across the border on chartered Wackenhut owned buses only to reappear the following week back where they were before.
All of the businesses like Love's and F/J truck plazas truck washing stations , tire changing, Jiffy lubes, landscaping, roofing contractors, chrome shops, golf courses.....all employ them.
Just take your big rig through one of the wash places and wonder where all the staff disappeared to while your truck's in one of the bays to then notice the white with green stripe Border Patrol Chevy in the parking lot of the Burger King next door, give a sigh of resignation, go back to reading the four year old issue of Guns and Ammo until the Chevy leaves and all the nearby businesses start back up again. It would be laughable if it weren't so utterly predictable.
It's a freak'n joke reading all this stuff on here with some Americans all upset about them when the whole dang nation is employing them, from New York to Arizona.
Just like your war on drugs being futile, so to will this wall accomplish NOTHING unless you STOP THE DEMAND like any other demand based negative.
You can bust a Canadian septuagenarian retiree's balls at the border by demanding to know his complete financials and submitting him to a 2 hour interrogation and after he proves ownership of property in Canada and a closer connection to that country, still deny him entry because you suspect he "might" desire to be a Walmart greeter in Fort Myers Beach but when it comes to the cheap labour everyone from Trump on down has used; it's: "c'mon over".
NOTHING will change and I don't shive-a-git how high Trump wastes your dollars building that stupid wall.
Investing in e- Verify is cheaper and more effective if it became Federal Law. Imposing harsh penalties on those who choose not to comply would be a serious deterrent and pay for the technology.
In absence of a Federal Mandate, why has Texas or Florida, long time Republican controlled states, NOT made it a state law? It's obvious to the most casual observer, too many people and businesses financially benefit from the employment of undocumented people.
The Trump Wall represent the biggest Big Government boondoggle ever.
Doubtful. It wouldn't be that hard to put a guest farm-worker program together.
There is a guest farm worker program in existence. However, many agri-businesses don't like to use it because of the paperwork involved and because they have to follow the law in how they treat their workers.
The businesses that do use it complain that they are at a competitive disadvantage to those that don't.
I'd have no problem if the "wall" was more digital using the technology we have at our disposal. The bottom line is that we need and should have had long ago secure borders.
No need to go to pre-BC levels of technology. I'd have no problem hooking up any barrier to an electrical current if that's going to make it more effective.
... Illegal immigrants financially help the well-to-do maintaine a higher standard of living and hurts those who are economically vulnerable.
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Exactly.
This whole wall business is just a big distraction so that the wealthy can continue to take advantage of people they can work like slaves.
While some may come over here to run drug businesses (sic the police on them) or have anchor babies (change that law), but majority come here because it's a safer place to live and they can earn money.
Reduce or eliminate the opportunity to work and earn money and you eliminate a good percentage of the problem.
[quote=green_mariner;47383808]Thank you for being the voice of reason. That wall will likely go through property. Housing, ranches, etc.
And there is something else no one has mentioned. The OCEAN. If an illegal can swim across the Rio Grande, what is to stop said person from going on the other side of the fence that ends at the Pacific Ocean? At the Pacific Ocean, you don't have to
The wall will probably be built along the coast, maybe two miles north along the shoreline.
Problem solved!
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