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Old 03-07-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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So, here is another lie from Trump. He supports this watered down ACA bill after promising insurance for everyone.

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Old 03-07-2017, 04:52 PM
 
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So, here is another lie from Trump. He supports this watered down ACA bill after promising insurance for everyone.
To be fair to Mr. Trump, he promised access to insurance for everyone, not insurance. Big difference. Like Bernie Sanders said, he has access to buying a million dollar mansion anytime he wants. Doesn't mean he can afford it.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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There are some early estimates that TEN MILLION will lose their coverage under this plan. Trump said everyone would have care and it would be wonderful. Early reports say quite the opposite.

The GOP has had SEVEN years to craft a plan and this "framework" is all they have for those efforts? What have they been doing all this time?
 
Old 03-07-2017, 04:59 PM
 
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To be fair to Mr. Trump, he promised access to insurance for everyone, not insurance. Big difference. Like Bernie Sanders said, he has access to buying a million dollar mansion anytime he wants. Doesn't mean he can afford it.
No, what tRump said was...

Donald Trump on Obamacare Replacement: 'Insurance for Everybody' | Fortune.com

"It's very much formulated down to the final strokes. We haven't put it in quite yet but we're going to be doing it soon," Trump told the Post, adding he was waiting for his nominee for health and human services secretary, Tom Price, to be confirmed.

The plan, he said, would include "lower numbers, much lower deductibles," without elaborating.

"We're going to have insurance for everybody," Trump said. "There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us."
 
Old 03-07-2017, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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To be fair to Mr. Trump, he promised access to insurance for everyone, not insurance. Big difference. Like Bernie Sanders said, he has access to buying a million dollar mansion anytime he wants. Doesn't mean he can afford it.
Actually his words were that the government would pay for those that can't afford it, but of course this was just another lie.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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The cat fights have begun from the trumpets against the conserves... Each now in their corner, winner then face to face with the dems... rumbleeeee! Who had that pop corn?
 
Old 03-07-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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No, what tRump said was...

Donald Trump on Obamacare Replacement: 'Insurance for Everybody' | Fortune.com

"It's very much formulated down to the final strokes. We haven't put it in quite yet but we're going to be doing it soon," Trump told the Post, adding he was waiting for his nominee for health and human services secretary, Tom Price, to be confirmed.

The plan, he said, would include "lower numbers, much lower deductibles," without elaborating.

"We're going to have insurance for everybody," Trump said. "There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us."
I hadn't seen that - just heard the GOP dancing around the word "access" in interviews. Now I got nothin'.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 05:21 PM
 
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Actually his words were that the government would pay for those that can't afford it, but of course this was just another lie.
Don't know that yet....
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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It does, and why this can't run for long. States cannot fund the HC needs of their people. They simply don't have enough money, and cannot create it like the Feds. The HC costs for any state might be comparable to their entire state budget!


Yes, and no.


Massachusetts' health care plan: 6 years later - CBS News


Is health reform working in Massachusetts? - Encore - MarketWatch


The original "Obamacare" state, Massachusetts while still facing healthcare costs slightly above national rate, still manages to do more for residents of that state than others.


Wealthy northeast and west coast states likely could do some sort of program similar to Massachusetts. It is the poorer mid-west and southern states already facing problems even paying for the limited Medicaid they provide that would face issues.


Poor states simply do not have the tax base/revenue sources to make a state run healthcare plan work. Worse these same states pride themselves on being "low tax" or whatever which means or has meant historically they don't do big social welfare schemes well, if at all.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The Republicans want older Americans to pay more for health insurance.

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State Age Rating Flexibility Act of 2017, legislation that would allow insurers to charge older Americans significantly more for health insurance.
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charging older Americans not yet eligible for Medicare a penalty of five times what others must pay for health insurance. The term ‘age rating’ is Washington-speak for overcharging older Americans by thousands of dollars for their health care,” AARP Executive Vice President Nancy LeaMond told FOX Business.
AARP: 'Age Tax' Means Healthcare Price Hikes for Older Americans | Fox Business
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