Neil Gorsuch vote (regular, regime, security, medical)
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No more middle ground. We are living in the same country but in separate worlds. Maybe the time is right to split the country in half and see where it goes and which side is the most successful. Of course a passport is needed to go from one side to the other. People on the wrong side will be given a grace period to sell their homes and get their affairs in order. This needs to happen or we will continue to be a country without a purpose or identity.
if the republicans go nuclear, it'll end up quite the disaster. One of the checks and balances will be gone. It's shame really. What happen to the politicians that worked together?
I think you need to take a look at the constitution when you get a chance.
I don't remember you saying the same thing in 2013 when it was the democrats doing it.
Another person that doesn't even know what Biden stated, go see post #181.
Post #181 has no information. It is actually post #170, or thereabouts, that has the biden quote.
Yes, I certainly DO know what biden said. IMO, it is applicable.
OK, you don't think so. sorry, I do not agree. some here agree with me, some agree with you.
That is quite normal.
Post #181 has no information. It is actually post #170, or thereabouts, that has the biden quote.
Yes, I certainly DO know what biden said. IMO, it is applicable.
OK, you don't think so. sorry, I do not agree. some here agree with me, some agree with you.
That is quite normal.
I think you need to read it again, he made this statement in June of an election year. They are just looking for remote excuses, they don't need one, both parties were going to take the actions this week regardless. Regardless this just divides both parties even more and that will extend well beyond this supreme court nomination.
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"Should a justice resign this summer and the president move to name a successor, actions that will occur just days before the Democratic Presidential Convention and weeks before the Republican Convention meets, a process that is already in doubt in the minds of many will become distrusted by all. Senate consideration of a nominee under these circumstances is not fair to the president, to the nominee, or to the Senate itself.
"Mr. President, where the nation should be treated to a consideration of constitutional philosophy, all it will get in such circumstances is a partisan bickering and political posturing from both parties and from both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue. As a result, it is my view that if a Supreme Court Justice resigns tomorrow, or within the next several weeks, or resigns at the end of the summer, President Bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not — and not — name a nominee until after the November election is completed."
And the enemies of our nation look on with eyes waiting for the right time to strike watching with drooling teeth as the Congress dithers away fiddling while Rome burns.
"How will Senate Democrats respond to this historic power grab? If Democrats follow the Republican response in 2013, it will freeze the Senate for thousands of hours, preventing Republicans from advancing their agenda.
In November 2013, Senate Democrats invoked the nuclear option to lower the confirmation threshold for lower court and executive branch nominees. In response, over the next 13 months, Republicans forced Democrats to file cloture on 154 nominees, and they forced 131 cloture votes."
Democrats can drag GOP nominees for years. And as we know, the tables always turn and the GOP will not be able to stop Democratic nominees either. It all works out eventually.
Changes only happen when SCOTUS members leave. And every one changes the court. I know you know this.
At least if we're going to have political rancor, at least one side (the majority) can win, and we can move on, and not have filibuster induced gridlock.
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Originally Posted by lvmensch
Pandora's box is now open. Now we can expect changes to the court on each admin change.
Regardless this just divides both parties even more and that will extend well beyond this supreme court nomination.
That is so true. The parties are further divided over this vote. Gorsuch is a very well qualified man for the job and even after the grilling he took from the Senate panel that didn't find anything wrong with him they still couldn't support him for the simple fact that Trump nominated him.
It is all so petty. I think it will be rather telling come the 2018 elections when many of these bozos are up for reelection. We will see then if The People are sick of these petty partisan politics.
Congress is heading to you one of their extended recess's shortly and maybe they could do us a favor and not return.
That is so true. The parties are further divided over this vote. Gorsuch is a very well qualified man for the job and even after the grilling he took from the Senate panel that didn't find anything wrong with him they still couldn't support him for the simple fact that Trump nominated him.
That isn't all there was to it. This has been beat to death though.
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