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If somone supposedly dies because they "cannot get access to health insurance" then they didn't look hard enough.
I thought medicaid was supposed to cover people on hard times.
Before the ACA medicaid only covered the disabled, the elderly, children and their parents. Expanded medicaid was added and that covered childless adults. Trumpcare would end expanded medicaid so those people covered by it would no longer have access to any healthcare
If somone supposedly dies because they "cannot get access to health insurance" then they didn't look hard enough.
I thought medicaid was supposed to cover people on hard times.
There are income limits for Medicaid. So in many states if you aren't at the poverty level you don't qualify. You think to yourself that it will go away because the alternative is for you to quit your job and go on welfare. Welfare for an individual is pretty close to homeless.
Now, granted this is not the norm but a more rare case but I will address that.
You are a single woman trying to make ends meet working at the local Denny's. You make just enough to keep your head above water but more than Medicaid level. What do you do? You put the pain off hoping it will go away. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't but it's not immediately life threatening. Sometimes it is.
While this may not be the norm, why in a country like ours is this the choice for far too many?
Before the ACA medicaid only covered the disabled, the elderly, children and their parents. Expanded medicaid was added and that covered childless adults. Trumpcare would end expanded medicaid so those people covered by it would no longer have access to any healthcare
I knew a number of families where the kids had government-funded health insurance but the parents did not.
"As of September 2016, 19 states had not expanded their programs. Medicaid eligibility for adults in states that did not expand their programs is quite limited: the median income limit for parents in 2016 is just 44% of poverty, or an annual income of $8,870 a year for a family of three, and in nearly all states not expanding, childless adults remain ineligible."
There are income limits for Medicaid. So in many states if you aren't at the poverty level you don't qualify. You think to yourself that it will go away because the alternative is for you to quit your job and go on welfare. Welfare for an individual is pretty close to homeless.
Now, granted this is not the norm but a more rare case but I will address that.
You are a single woman trying to make ends meet working at the local Denny's. You make just enough to keep your head above water but more than Medicaid level. What do you do? You put the pain off hoping it will go away. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't but it's not immediately life threatening. Sometimes it is.
While this may not be the norm, why in a country like ours is this the choice for far too many?
You have described my sister to a T. She didn't work at Dennys, but she was working full time at minimum wage and was barely making it. She lived in Michigan, a state that, prior to expanding Medicaid, did not cover any adult unless they had dependent children. As a result, she could never afford to see a doctor. She ended up in the ICU with a life threatening condition that she had probably had for a long time but it became critical because she was untreated. We lucked out because this happened literally two days after Michigan decided to expand Medicaid, so she is now able to get help with her medications. Which will all go away with TrumpCare.
And before anyone jumps in to denigrate her, she suffers from mild mental health problems which makes it difficult for her to hold a job at times. But she has always been employed at some job or other and has always managed to take care of herself, though she is definitely one of the working poor. These are the people who fall through the cracks. They are the most vulnerable in our society, and the ones who get thrown away first by the Republicans whenever they are in power.
For those of you paying attention to the argument, just watch where the bouncing ball goes. It's one hard luck story after another, but a refusal to address the other side of the issue. That would be those that the Democrats let get swept under the bus when they are in power. Its very similar to the immigration argument. We hear all the tough luck stories, but they pretend to ignore people that are killed by a those that enter the country illegally . How convenient. Apparently, they don't realize the hardships put on millions for the sake of a much smaller minority.
There are income limits for Medicaid. So in many states if you aren't at the poverty level you don't qualify. You think to yourself that it will go away because the alternative is for you to quit your job and go on welfare. Welfare for an individual is pretty close to homeless.
Now, granted this is not the norm but a more rare case but I will address that.
You are a single woman trying to make ends meet working at the local Denny's. You make just enough to keep your head above water but more than Medicaid level. What do you do? You put the pain off hoping it will go away. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't but it's not immediately life threatening. Sometimes it is.
While this may not be the norm, why in a country like ours is this the choice for far too many?
I knew a number of families where the kids had government-funded health insurance but the parents did not.
"As of September 2016, 19 states had not expanded their programs. Medicaid eligibility for adults in states that did not expand their programs is quite limited: the median income limit for parents in 2016 is just 44% of poverty, or an annual income of $8,870 a year for a family of three, and in nearly all states not expanding, childless adults remain ineligible."
There are programs like CHIP that provide health insurance to children in families with an income too high to qualify for medicaid, but If their income was low enough they would be covered.
You have described my sister to a T. She didn't work at Dennys, but she was working full time at minimum wage and was barely making it. She lived in Michigan, a state that, prior to expanding Medicaid, did not cover any adult unless they had dependent children. As a result, she could never afford to see a doctor. She ended up in the ICU with a life threatening condition that she had probably had for a long time but it became critical because she was untreated. We lucked out because this happened literally two days after Michigan decided to expand Medicaid, so she is now able to get help with her medications. Which will all go away with TrumpCare.
I've mentioned this before.....we have no idea yet what Trumpcare is or if there will ever be such a thing so we can not make that determination yet.
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And before anyone jumps in to denigrate her, she suffers from mild mental health problems which makes it difficult for her to hold a job at times. But she has always been employed at some job or other and has always managed to take care of herself, though she is definitely one of the working poor. These are the people who fall through the cracks. They are the most vulnerable in our society, and the ones who get thrown away first by the Republicans whenever they are in power.
There have long been programs for those with mental conditions. She should have taken advantage of them.
For those of you paying attention to the argument, just watch where the bouncing ball goes. It's one hard luck story after another, but a refusal to address the other side of the issue. That would be those that the Democrats let get swept under the bus when they are in power. Its very similar to the immigration argument. We hear all the tough luck stories, but they pretend to ignore people that are killed by a those that enter the country illegally . How convenient. Apparently, they don't realize the hardships put on millions for the sake of a much smaller minority.
I've addressed that many times and for years.
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