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Old 06-06-2017, 12:59 AM
 
Location: California
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I wish. Unfortunately I think whoever has the power will control the media and narrative and going forward even the deep fringe publications and outlets will be silenced. We won't even know who's good/bad/right/wrong because it we won't be allowed to.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Unlikely..... Firstly who in their right mind with any intelligence would pick news reporter as a profession? I often find myself wondering if it's bias or are they just complete imbeciles.

Secondly news is a business and the fact is sensational headlines sells regardless of whether it's important or has substance.
It is actually a well paid profession, especially if you end up in the big leagues so to speak
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:28 AM
 
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Really, what happened to FOX, didn't you guys claim they were the No.1 Cable news station for the longest time, they are No.3 now, but no matter. Hate to burst your bubble but the right wing "news" sources are no more trustworthy than the left wing "news", one has to do their own homework to actually get the full story.
>>>> We know what happened to Fox. They lost the most popular news commentators in the business and that left Fox in disarray and turned many viewers off. Them going down in ratings didn't raise the others up, MSNBC and CNN have improved their ratings but they're still struggling with garbage content and problem reporting. If Fox straightens its problems out and wins back viewers by doing what they always did, they're right back in No.1.
Now as to a tipping point in journalism. I've noticed something in my local paper. Its a pretty big paper, not on the level of the Philadelphia Enquirer or NY Times( maybe more professional, actually), but not some po dunk small town gazette, either. But they have some new journalists rotated in and they have their columns they do weekly. And for a relatively conservative independently owned paper, these journalists have opinions in support of big media. I guess they're fishing for bigger and better jobs in larger papers, but they still don't come across as having sharp news skills and journalistic credentials.
And that's being seen more and more in cable news. They're hiring pretty faces or partisan lackeys that do nothing but push an agenda and offer zero insights or analysis in what they report. Real investigative journalism is what they actively oppose these days.
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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>>>> We know what happened to Fox. They lost the most popular news commentators in the business and that left Fox in disarray and turned many viewers off. Them going down in ratings didn't raise the others up, MSNBC and CNN have improved their ratings but they're still struggling with garbage content and problem reporting. If Fox straightens its problems out and wins back viewers by doing what they always did, they're right back in No.1.
Now as to a tipping point in journalism. I've noticed something in my local paper. Its a pretty big paper, not on the level of the Philadelphia Enquirer or NY Times( maybe more professional, actually), but not some po dunk small town gazette, either. But they have some new journalists rotated in and they have their columns they do weekly. And for a relatively conservative independently owned paper, these journalists have opinions in support of big media. I guess they're fishing for bigger and better jobs in larger papers, but they still don't come across as having sharp news skills and journalistic credentials.
And that's being seen more and more in cable news. They're hiring pretty faces or partisan lackeys that do nothing but push an agenda and offer zero insights or analysis in what they report. Real investigative journalism is what they actively oppose these days
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Good point out on they are hiring pretty faces that push agenda.
Sometimes I will be somewhere where there is a TV on and news is playing and some of the women in their tight dresses, sleeveless. And some of the men prettied up.

It does seem some news outlets hire for looks rather than knowledge and skills in the area of reporting.
And some people fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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I wish. Unfortunately I think whoever has the power will control the media and narrative and going forward even the deep fringe publications and outlets will be silenced. We won't even know who's good/bad/right/wrong because it we won't be allowed to.

I sure hope not.
But I could see where it would go in that direction.

The free speech in the media area now is being used as an open door to lies and raunch.
Speculation as facts.
And over the top sensationalism to draw attention and ratings.

And if they do get silenced they will have ruined it for Americans and this Country.
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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I don't think there's much unusual about the news media right now aside from the hysterics people seem to have about it. News outlets have always been biased to a degree. It's really the only way of operating as any human being has some bias. "Yellow Journalism" has been used to describe the more slanted, sensationalist publications/outlets for over a century. It's not new. Outlets like the NYT and Fox News have slants (left/right respectively), while you could file Slate/Mother Jones (left) and Breitbart/Blaze in that "yellow journalism" category- not necessarily fake (all the time, anyway), but definitely sensationalist/exaggerated pretty far in one direction.

Honestly, I look at things a little more optimistically. We're in an age of proliferating information. We have access to more information than we ever have before. Anyone interested in seeing beyond their bubble easily can. 15 years ago, Slate or Breitbart would never have had extensive readership. But because of the internet, they do. Social media gives us instant access to first hand accounts as well. We literally have never had the opportunity to be more informed than we do right now. But the issue is that people have to want to be informed. And many don't. Many want to brush of an NYT report as "fake news" and continue to get all of their information from Breitbart. Or others want to ignore a piece on Fox News because slate has a different hot take. Consumers need to do a better job of pulling the kernels of truth from the slanted pieces (and dig enough to find the real fake news- not just the news the opposition disagrees with), because the slant will always be there. It helps to diversify your viewing too, because seeing different perspectives, no matter how "loony" they may appear, is a good thing. Even if you disagree, it helps to understand where people are coming from.
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