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It's a good thing for you we don't some kind of historic transcript that shows you figuratively flailing around like spinning top. Oh wait, we do. It's called "the thread".
And just what have you contributed to the discussion besides snide remarks about supposed flailing and other supposed gotchas? Nada.
When we discuss rules of inference, we are talking purely about logical form and the soundness of the premises are not relevant.
I'm not conflating anything. I'm pointing out that while you can extrapolate an argument from a subset to a general population, that the extrapolation will not always be successful. Or sound, if you prefer. And you are trying to blow smoke to hide the fact that your extrapolation of a questionable conclusion regarding Amish women fails as an argument against women in general.
I'm not conflating anything. I'm pointing out that while you can extrapolate an argument from a subset to a general population, that the extrapolation will not always be successful. Or sound, if you prefer. And you are trying to blow smoke to hide the fact that your extrapolation of a questionable conclusion regarding Amish women fails as an argument against women in general.
This is nothing to do with the broader logical form. You're discussing the soundness of a premise.
Until fairly recently, virtually all medical studies on humans were done on men. Feminism played an important role in recognizing and starting to fix this problem. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1761670/
"until fairly recently, virtually all medical studies on humans were done on men"
All, Really?
1835
Harriot Kezia Hunt was one of the first woman to practice medicine, "clearly the first to achieve a marked success"
You completely misunderstood my sentence, but that is partly my fault. I didn't mark a clear transition from the idea of employment opportunities for women to other sorts of things feminism has helped accomplish. So I'm sorry for the confusion. I was not saying that all doctors have been men. I was saying that experimental subjects have been almost all men. The links I posted make this perfectly clear, but I don't blame you for not clicking on them. This thread has exploded to mind-boggling length in a very short time.
As for your response showing a list of women doctors, etc., I would also point out that I said virtually all, not "all". So even granting your misinterpretation, I would probably feel comfortable saying that most medical practitioners have been men - not because women wouldn't be interested in professional medicine, but because educational and employment opportunities for women to go into medicine were not historically very good. Without feminism, I doubt we'd see nearly as many female doctors and researchers as we see today.
But thanks for your list of women in medicine. I didn't know about most of these.
This is nothing to do with the broader logical form. You're discussing the soundness of a premise.
I am discussing the soundness of a premise. That's how debate works. You offer up arguments, based on premises. Your argument's soundness depends on the soundness of your premise. I am pointing out that your premise is unsound, and therefore your argument is unsound.
After the spanking you got the first time round, is this particularly wise?
Again, no substance from you. He hasn't ever proven the soundness of his full premises as justifying his "logical" conclusion of taking away all feminism (even if he is arguing that we should accept these premises even if not sound), so we're still in the "first" round and waiting for some actual real rebuttals.
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