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Old 07-14-2017, 06:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ghengis View Post
there. Trump explains it in a way that we should all be able to understand, while thinking quickly on his feet no less. If you can't accept Junior's rationale that he was conducting Opposition Research, can't you at least get on board with the notion that it was Research Into Your Opponent...even?

sometimes you just have to communicate to the level of your audience is all

We realize that trump minions believe in "alternative facts" but the rest of us call them lies.
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Old 07-14-2017, 06:10 AM
 
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Ill let someone else define treason, especially since we seem to be lowering the bar on everything for the cheetos and his stupid family. But as for getting dirt from the opposition, you should know that there is a law against foreign governments getting this dirt and trying to help you win an election through it. There is a law against that, and if you say, "I Love it" to that attempt by the foreign government who is breaking that law, then you are also breaking that law by intent. It doesn't matter that the meeting was a dud and lasted only 30 minutes....The fact that you were disappointed and referred it as a dud simply reinforced the fact of your intent to collude. Your intention was to break this law and the intent goes a long way in explaining a lot of what the Trump campaign did subsequently.

This is not a "nothingburger". Id say this is a fat juicy one with lots of fixing and more burgers are to follow.

Glad your not an attorney....there was no intent...


Getting dirt, from wherever is not a crime...


No, there is no law where you can or cannot get dirt from....remember the steele dossier....where did that come from? Do you know the definition of collusion, obviously not....
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Old 07-14-2017, 06:11 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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So, you really have no clue what treason is....so sad....
They throw these words out because the ignorant leftist masses eat them up. They will mindlessly repeat them over and over again until they actually start believing their own rhetoric.

I have repeatedly asked for an intelligent argument that a specific crime has been committed. People on the left are happy to throw out the names of charges. Everything from jay walking to espionage. But nobody is willing to back those charges up with an argument. Instead, it is like caveman talk. Trump....Russian....espionage....ugh.
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Old 07-14-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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So, you really have no clue what the definition of "collusion" or "treason" is...got it....


That is what is truly sad, instead of actually doing just a little research, understanding the definitions of each and then actually applying those definitions to the actual situation, you would understand...well maybe not, you've already demonstrated that...




LOL, you are like Trump no reading comprehension whatsoever, since you don't understand the definitions at all!
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:22 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Change Russia to Iran. Still ok to get oppositional info from a foreign government.

If I am running against you, in a political campaign and they may have some good dirt on you... everyday of the week. Keep it coming!!!!


War has no rules and the winner writes history.

Look at Obama with full surveillance on everything Trump, with the resources of our intelligence agencies using the power of the NSA to know everything Trump was doing and who they were doing it with.
There are no rules.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:25 AM
 
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So, when Clinton did it, it's o.k.?







Agreed....




They tried to hack into election SOFTWARE? Link...or just more blather from the left...


And again, it's o.k. for Hillary to use the Ukraine government to go through Russia to get "something' on trump?


Talk about a double standard....or are you also shaming the Clintons, also?
Clinton didn't do it.

Chalupa didn't work for the Clinton campaign. Chalupa didn't work for the Ukrainian government.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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What's the difference?

Interference is interference.

If you attempt to prevent me from voting, it doesn't matter if you're an American or a Russian.

Your hatred and contempt for Trump is making you see goblins in the night.
The political parties are private entities. They get to select who they nominate. The primaries are meant to assist the political parties in deciding who to select. Some parties don't even bother with primaries.

As private entities, the political parties get to make their own rules. Because they aren't part of the government. When you vote in the primaries for the candidate of your choice, your vote is merely for the information of the political party. It doesn't carry any more weight than the party chooses to give it. The political parties are private entities, not government entities.

And this should really be a part of everyone's high school education.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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I see so the excuses have now changed from

Trump never had contact with Russian officials is all a lie

To

It's ok for him to have gotten information from the Russians because all is ok in politics.


Sad, but thanks for the laugh. Reagan must be spinning in his grave
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:41 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I see so the excuses have now changed from

Trump never had contact with Russian officials is all a lie

To

It's ok for him to have gotten information from the Russians because all is ok in politics.


Sad, but thanks for the laugh. Reagan must be spinning in his grave
Trump still has not had contact with Russian officials. He has never gotten information from the Russians.
There is still no proof the DNC server was ever hacked.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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Trump still has not had contact with Russian officials. He has never gotten information from the Russians.
There is still no proof the DNC server was ever hacked.
The Trump campaign certainly had contact with Russian officials. That's what the Russian investigation is about. Your statement is only an attempt at misdirection.
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