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Old 07-18-2017, 03:46 PM
 
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I bet every new plan ends up being Obamacare. LMAO.
They'll eventually reach the same conclusion: If everyone is going to have access to affordable health care, everyone has to participate and contribute. You can't just sign up when you're sick.
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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No, the big question is whether or not they will totally repeal Obama care and then we will see who is laughing?
To repeal without replacing would be immoral and probably impossible. Some sort of laws have to be in place.
"There would be no joy in Mudville tonight"
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:51 PM
 
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[Keep Obamacare......The dems own it.....let them go down with it....it's another gov. program that is a miserable failure.....
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Old 07-18-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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[Keep Obamacare......The dems own it.....let them go down with it....it's another gov. program that is a miserable failure.....
After spending the last six months trying to pass their own bill, do you think anyone believes the Democrats own it any more? Maybe if the Republicans had quietly done whatever was necessary behind the scenes to hasten the ACA's death this would be true, but the GOP has made such noise about their own plans that they have effectively taken responsibility for healthcare going forward.

If it fails on their watch, after all their big talk about repeal and replace, and after all the histrionics of trying to get a bill they could all agree on, it is all on them. I think a lot of Republicans understand this, even if you do not.
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Old 07-18-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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It's obvious that the Republicans are treating Donald like an independent President. They are subversively working against him, along with the Democratic traitors.
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Old 07-18-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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There are elephants in the room . People wanting freebies , Medicaid & subsidies , & they will not reelect politicians that limit those freebies so in some states the politicians that vote to limit those freebies won't have a political future . Obamacare was ill conceived & unsustainable but the leeches don't care as long as the freebies last . They'll scream bloody murder when Obamacare finishes swirling down the toilet though . People like that couldn't care less that we're passing trillions in debt on to our children & grandchildren . They can only think , what can the government give me [ NOW ] .
Nobody is getting freebies as you claim and if it is, you won't tell the truth, that 7:1 those are white people recipients. But you don't want that truth.
The debt you talk about,..... is because the wealthy stole and sold off everything in America and hid money off shore and did not pay taxes. That same amount of debt, is the same money wasted in Iraq and hidden offshore and buried in Foreign Investment of Industry and every other element they could find to bury the money.

Now if you don't want to address those truths, then stop with your self centered commentary.. The wealthy will in-debt their own great great grand children just so they can boast about how much money they have. The level of greed is so beyond anything remotely humane... that it would be likely in the Governments best interest to raise the tax rate on the wealthy for the next 10 yrs just to make them pay back what they stole.
Any monies found in Offshore accounts should be seized and returned to the U.S. Treasury !!!! The money invested in Foreign Industry by American's should be taxed to the point they only get to keep 10% of what they earn and the other 90% goes back into the U.S. Treasury until all the money they used to engage in ECONOMIC TREASON AGAINST THE MONETARY SYSTEM AND ECONOMIC STABILITY OF AMERICA, FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR OWN GREED.

THEN... for every banks that claims 4-5-7 billion in profit every three months, have it taxed at 80% and put into a fund, that is devoted to Youth educations, so for the next 30 yrs, no young people have to pay for University Educations for the first 4 yrs. and if they want to go an addition 2 yrs.. the cost to do so is at a fixed rate that can't exceed $10k a year.
Then in 35-40 yrs, American will be back to being a nation that respects itself. And Greed will be taxed so heavy that the only way people will have is to engage in Honesty business, or risk forfeiture by seizure and return all ill gotten gains to the U.S. Treasury. Doing these things, will result to a Positive American, and In a matter of years, we won't have any more foreign debt.

Put in a clause that anyone who moves to another country trying to avoid this, that a 30 yr liability clause ensures that their money can still be taxed and seized and they can be charged with Economic Treason.

If we want Capitalism to work.. we have to go hard line to stop the greed crime that has ripped this country to shreds.

We have enough computing power to trace everything !!!!!! and we can trace it back 2-3 decades or more if necessary.

Then we put REGULATIONS ON THE STOCK MARKET.. That say's NO CEO CAN BORROW AGAINST SPECULATION VALUATION.. they can only borrow up to 30% of what is ACTUAL AND FACTUAL PRODUCTION AND SALES.. Then we won't have any more OVER-LEVERAGED COMPANIES. And NO ONE can use any companies equity against them to purchase it. IF one company wants to buy another, if they don't have 'solid cash".. and not borrowed money.. there is no more Acquisitions. Any Mergers cannot load the company with more than 30% debt load.....

As to Real Estate, any time a property goes up above 3% in a single year, then the property taxes goes up by xx %, so no city is strapped by people wanting more services while underlying their property taxes, as we know when appraised value is high, people want more services. So... if the appraised value exceeds such 3% a year escalation, then the Property taxes goes up.
Guaranteed when this is done... Property won't sky rocket and become unaffordable and communities won't be falling apart because people can't afford to own and maintain the necessary maintenance of a home.
Then add in the % factor on All Mortgage qualifications to ENSURE that a home buyer can afford the maintenance upkeep... Because there is no such thing as owning a house without it having maintenance upkeep expenses.

We can fix America..... but we have to stand on Responsibility and we do that by imposing Regulation and Taxation.. Then we fight off exaggerated Inflation and build stability. We won't have such a transient population that continue to erode itself by Greed Chasing.

The stock market was not created for Casino Gaming. that's why we have Casino's for those who want to gamble like that. The stock market was a slow growth program, to help business with Research and Development and WELL MANAGED EXPANSION AS IT CAN BE justified and maintained by having solid market shares....and solid data to back it up... Any excessive expansion must be under close scrutiny, and then we can have "healthy and fair competition" in the market places.

It does not matter who does not like it, it matters that we have A STABLE NATION !!!! THAT CAN MEET THE FUTURE WITH A SOLID PLATFORM.... THAT'S HOW WE PRESERVE AMERICA FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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Didn't read beyond your first sentence . Close to half of the country is getting freebies in one way or another .
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:47 PM
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Yes it is entertaining - they can't get enough support to pass it!
The shooter at the ball field won, didn't he. Democrats passed the mess we have now. Isn't there at least five honest Democrats that care about the working people in America instead they help out the freeloaders.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I mean the GOP bitched and complained about Obama Care since day 1, yet they can't even replace the damn thing after multiple attempts? What the hell were they doing all those years when they were complaining? They couldn't come up with a single viable and palatable plan during that whole time? Now that they've shown utter incompetence when it comes to crafting healthcare law, their option of last resort in order to save face is to simply vote on the repeal of Obama Care and have nothing to replace it. What a catastrophe of epic proportions for the GOP. At total egg on their face. This is the greatest piece entertainment of the year.
I love Obamacare...were it not for that disastrous farce, the Republicans would not now control the House, Senate, Presidency, Supreme Court, State legislatures and state Governors....all hail the Unaffordable & I Don't Care Act.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:32 PM
 
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Obamacare is failing on it's own. What is the point of this thread? The GOP are trying to figure out a solution/replacement. The Democrats are obstructing the process along with some trolls in the GOP as well.
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