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Originally Posted by Pilot1
Like all other states, the large metro areas control California. The people there are not all nuts, just the urbanized, and suburban liberal/progressives that vote for people like Gavin Newsome, Governor Moonbeam, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, etc. Most of CA is not like this, but the population centers control the state. It is a shame, because it is beautiful, and was once part of America. Not anymore.
Who's Moonbeam? Edmund Brown is the governor of California.....
President Trump should extend the border wall around California.
People from there flock to other states, and bring their failed political beliefs they fled from with them. Then they try to change the political climate to their beliefs. States like Nevada used to be conservative/republican but stuff like this have flipped the state blue. And now they're trying to do the same to Utah, Arizona, Texas, etc...
Here's a better idea: How about if you just stay out of California?
Most of the states with the highest GSP (gross state product) per capita are states that voted for Clinton. Most of the states at the bottom of the list voted for Trump.
I feel sorry for Texas. They got businesses in California to move to Texas and then unfortunately, the liberals came with them.
Well, educated people tend to be on the liberal side. Conservatism these days seems to attract the dumb and ignorant. A list of the 10 best educated states shows that every single of them is a "blue state".
The answer...because someone with your attitude is asking....is No .
And why do you care? What connection, other than 'political agreement with 'the majority' do you have to California? I don't remember your posting that you have ever lived there. Aren't you an Arizona native with Detroit roots, who has also lived in Europe, and now lives in Arizona again? No one is forcing you to read this thread.
Those of us who are natives have more justification to put in our two cents toward an infinitesimal at best nudge toward what we see as sanity re California, than you do to resist same as a non native and a non resident.
Whether or not I've lived in California is irrelevant. Maybe California would be a lot nicer if you left. Ever thought about that?
I'm fine with that just as long as you anti-wall people will pick up the tab for the $113 billion a year that illegals cost us. We'll gladly pick up the one time expense of a $25 billion for a wall. Do we have a deal?
25 billion? Haha... you really think that is all it will cost?
I'm not sure the US would be better off without California and its economy and global influence due to all its tech companies.
What I am sure of is the common sense tech gurus would pack up and move east and the liberal morons would be busy celebrating with their new Mexican compatriots and hopefully get trapped on the Mexican side of the wall.
What I am sure of is the common sense tech gurus would pack up and move east and the liberal morons would be busy celebrating with their new Mexican compatriots and hopefully get trapped on the Mexican side of the wall.
I wouldn't be soooo sure about that. Many of these tech gurus are very very liberal. At best they would move like you said eastward and bring their philosophies with them and in a few years you would demand "insert random state in the east where said tech gurus moved to" to be walled up or given to Mexico.
California is the economic engine of the country. The U.S. would be a toilet without California (and New York, Massachusetts and a few other rich places).
How about we build a wall around the poor, welfare-addicted states that gave us the Trump nightmare, so all the wealthy, prosperous states can go about their business? Places like CA and NY will happily take all your immigrants and educated people, while you can keep the trailer parks and racist crazies.
I wouldn't be soooo sure about that. Many of these tech gurus are very very liberal. At best they would move like you said eastward and bring their philosophies with them and in a few years you would demand "insert random state in the east where said tech gurus moved to" to be walled up or given to Mexico.
Liberal until threatened with losing their American citizenship and their bankroll. Then see how liberal they are.
Being a liberal automatically ensures a certain level of hypocrisy. There is no avoiding it.
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