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Old 07-31-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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Post 1 THING the dems have proposed to "make it better"

Dems propose a limit on prescription deductibles ,Boehner wouldn't bring it to a vote.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:26 AM
 
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What does it say when the President is sabotaging a program so it will fail? Trump is so desperate to be right and get a "win" under his belt he will stoop to this? If he had a conscience he would be ashamed of himself but this man is a shell of a person. He has no compassion for anyone but his family. I can't stand this creature....
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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How is this not grounds for impeachment?
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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Well then it Obamacare isn't imploding ,it is being sabotaged.The President of the US is purposely hurt it's citizens.
No he's helping his citizens. By removing the subsidies to the "Takers", it will reduce the HUGE increases on the Premiums to the middle and working class.

I support the helping the middle and working class (as opposed to those who refuse to go to work or are gaming the system) & since Congress failed to come together on workable replacement..... then I support removing the subsidies to make this silly obamacare plan more fair to the working and middle class.

(Note: If ANY state is currently including illegal aliens to their list of subsidized (or free) healthcare plans, they should immediately stop all payments - as it relates to Obamacare or healthcare - to any State who is providing these services to Illegal Aliens. Looking at you Cali.)

Either that or blow the whole thing up.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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How is this not grounds for impeachment?
He isn't breaking any law. There is no provision in law to subsidize this thing. Is there something that says he must advertise it? If weak enforcement of laws was grounds for impeachment plenty of Presidents would have been impeached.

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Old 07-31-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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NO.. I had insurance and have insurance. ACA caused my insurance costs to skyrocket. It is a bad law, the flaws were called out from day one. The name is misleading. It does nothing to make health care affordable and in fact increased the costs of healthcare for everyone except that 21 million you seem to be concerned about.
This is correct. The ACA was an attack on working class & middle class Americans.

One might have once said it was a "redistribution of wealth"....but in reality, those families having to make higher premium payments aren't wealthy. & in fact many had to go into debt (or pull money out of IRAs) in order to make the Govt. mandated payments.

& I wonder how many of the 21 million (that everyone is concerned about) are illegal aliens?

Repeal it, Replace it or Blow it up.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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NO.. I had insurance and have insurance. ACA caused my insurance costs to skyrocket. It is a bad law, the flaws were called out from day one. The name is misleading. It does nothing to make health care affordable and in fact increased the costs of healthcare for everyone except that 21 million you seem to be concerned about.
Flaws? WTH are you talking about? Mitch blocked Obama from fixing the flaws for 6 years! Mitch obstructed every day. he refused to let any amendments get to the floor or debate or a damn thing. Mitch publicly stated he would do everything he could to break ACA and make sure it failed. and mitch publicly stated that he was doing it because if it worked, the public would NEVER let them take it away.

Boneyard, honestly did you pay attention at all, Or did you just fall inline like a good like party member ?

Mitch McConnell purposely prevented ACA from working by tying Obama's hands as much as he could. Obama was forced to try to use EOs to fix ACA , while Mitch refused point blank to get the dems fix ACA without him getting a full repeal of it.

IT WAS YOUR GUYS WHO MADE ACA SO COSTLY. and they did it so that you would hate ACA instead of loving it. They made you pay thousands and tricked you into believing that they were fighting for you. Instead they were fighting to block you from getting long term lower cost healthcare security.


think about that Boneyard. The party you love threw your wallet under the bus to score political points.





The plan for ACA was simple.
1 land it.
2 tweak it, adjust it improve it.
3 Then go after the costs .

but from the day it 'landed" the Rs made sure obama could not complete step 2. mitch made sure you paid more to ensure you would never support it.


but even with all that MOST americans have not been fooled. (clearly you have boneyard) they can see that while ACA might have problems it is our best path forward and needs to be fully fixed and improved to make sure it is a good long term solution.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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LOL well put. The Dems wrote a very flawed bill, didn't read it, Obama made it a law and now it's everyone else's responsibility to fix it.
I would have loved to have seen the look on Jonathan Gruber's face the first time he viewed the infamous 'Stupidity/American voter' YouTube video that posted with the words coming right out of his own mouth .
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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The plan for ACA was simple.
1 land it.
2 tweak it, adjust it improve it.
3 Then go after the costs .

but from the day it 'landed" the Rs made sure obama could not complete step 2. mitch made sure you paid more to ensure you would never support it.


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Where in the original legislation does it call for tweaking, adjusting, and improving?

I recall BO stealing a lot of money to keep this boondoggle afloat. Mitch should have let him steal more?
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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How is this not grounds for impeachment?
I guess we need to make a list of the items that the hair on fire Progs want to impeach him on:

- Let Obamacare implode - impeach.
- Send out a dumb tweet (or a smart tweet) - impeach.
- Have lunch with Putin (in full view of everyone) - impeach.
- Order two scoops of ice cream (instead of just one) - impeach.
- Fire your FBI director (who leaks info to the NYT) - impeach.
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