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Old 08-11-2017, 08:35 PM
 
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Reading these threads it's as if Americans desire yet another war. So be it. I tried to talk folks out of Iraq but they wouldn't listen. This time we won't be picking on some a-rabs with a couple scuds (China).

War with China would be unthinkable because nuke is the ONLY way it can go. They have intentionally kept their nuke count low to avoid "arms races" with the US and Russia, yet it would be their only choice if we decided to even touch their mainland.

Watch what you wish for. Then again, I think enough Americans hate the world (their lives) enough that they might welcome the end of it. After all, that was the purpose of much of the Trump vote "we'll show them by creating chaos".

If you have kids...think of them. Basically the world would take a century or more to recover....even then, we'd have to deal with the DNA mutations, etc.

My suggestion is to stop talking about and reading about nukes. Words and thoughts tend to turn into deeds when enough attention is put into them.
you are assuming that the US will go to war with china. but as china has already said, if NK attacks the US and the US retaliates, then china will remain neutral. if the US attacks first though, then its on.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:38 PM
 
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China is irrelevant.

If the USA decides that a strike is needed on NK, it will happen regardless of China.

If China decides to get involved, it becomes a target as well. This isn't the 1950s. China's military is a paper tiger. It is no match for the USA.
And I could not care about you lunacy, thing is the idiot you elected has the same idiotic point of view.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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The US could soundly defeat China in a conventional war. They need to realize that a miscalculation on their part could mean the end of their communist party and life as they know it...
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:32 PM
 
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The US could soundly defeat China in a conventional war. They need to realize that a miscalculation on their part could mean the end of their communist party and life as they know it...
And now you want to go to war with China??? I'm sorry but if Trumps goes through with his rhetoric, we will have world war 3. And we will have no allies because Trump has alienated them.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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And now you want to go to war with China??? I'm sorry but if Trumps goes through with his rhetoric, we will have world war 3. And we will have no allies because Trump has alienated them.
Who said I wanted to go to war with China? People love to put words in the mouths of others here..

I was just stating a fact.

Trump is an idiot and hopefully he doesn't get us into a war before he's impeached...
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:01 PM
 
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Who said I wanted to go to war with China? People love to put words in the mouths of others here..

I was just stating a fact.

Trump is an idiot and hopefully he doesn't get us into a war before he's impeached...
Oh sorry But, unfortunately I think he will get us into another war because he can't keep his mouth shut.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:11 PM
 
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The US could soundly defeat China in a conventional war.
A conventional war? Not hardly. Not even for a moment.

China would swallow up American conventional forces. The US can't defeat China conventionally anywhere their soldiers can walk to.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:25 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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A conventional war? Not hardly. Not even for a moment.

China would swallow up American conventional forces. The US can't defeat China conventionally anywhere their soldiers can walk to.
I agree. China just has too many soldiers and too much tenacity and If they are anything like the Japanese in WW2 were. That's was why we went nuke because it cost too many American lives to try and defeat them. We didn't have the stomach for it then and we surely don't now.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:45 PM
 
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A conventional war? Not hardly. Not even for a moment.

China would swallow up American conventional forces. The US can't defeat China conventionally anywhere their soldiers can walk to.
I fought in Iraq in 2003 and 2004 and know what the US military can do first hand. Where is your informed opinion coming from?
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:48 PM
 
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A conventional war? Not hardly. Not even for a moment.

China would swallow up American conventional forces. The US can't defeat China conventionally anywhere their soldiers can walk to.
I have never been to China. Is it like Vietnam where we fought in the jungles and lost.
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