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Old 04-16-2023, 06:39 PM
 
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We all vote our self-interest. What do you think "It's the economy stupid" means? Vote your wallet? Do you think our corporate overlords care about anything but themselves? Greed is good my friend. Greed is the only reason America exists.

The people voting for their race are infinitely more intelligent than those who vote against their own race.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bbzwJ0Sx48



They don't vote for democrats because of immigration. They vote for democrats for the privileges/protections the democrats promise them and because they hate whitey.



Do you know anything about evolution? The reason humans are tribal is because for millions of years of evolution they lived in tribes that consisted purely of extended-family. Tribalism is an outgrowth of kinship. And racism is a kind of extension or proxy of kinship.

It's all about "us" and "them". In-group vs out-group. Coalitions. Allies. Etc. At its root it is about survival. People who are tribal, live. People who aren't, die out. And that dynamic is just as true today as it was ten thousand years ago.

https://behumanproject.org/why-are-we-tribal/

Tribalism is so powerful that every government devotes most of their time either exploiting it for control, or suppressing it to prevent civil war. And unlike what the liars claim, tribalism/racism isn't taught. It exists literally everywhere on Earth. It is a human universal. Only in western countries do people pretend that tribalism is some kind of an aberration.

Which begs the question, what is their motivation for repeating nonsense? What do they hope to gain? Or what are they afraid to lose?
Speak for yourself! I am not tribal based on what race I am and so do many other Americans feel that way. It's racist in nature, IMO to be tribal. But that makes someone more intelligent to vote based on their race? Huh?

I vote based on policy not party, not race and not self-interests.

Many minorities do vote for the Democrats because of their loose "immigration" policies because they have family here illegally (self interest again) along with their believing the lies that the Republicans are racists in nature and they like the socialism of the Democrats (self interest again) but not in the best interests of the country as a whole.

We are no longer cave men fighting for survival against one another. We are a modern society that has become aware that we can only survive by supporting one another rather than just our own race at least that's true of many of us who don't believe in tribalism.

What repeated nonsense? Who is they that hopes to gain and are afraid of losing? What does that have to do with those of us who care about society as a whole? What does your video about Wall Street have to do with the common American?

 
Old 04-16-2023, 06:46 PM
 
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I should have added the caveat, "if all other things are equal".

I was talking to a friend the other day about how when I watch fight videos on 4chan, I can't help but instinctively root for one side or the other based on cursory assumptions.

But then I said, it's funny because when it is the police vs a black guy, I root for the black guy, because I hate the police. You could tell me the black guy just raped a white woman and I would still root against the police.
Why do you hate the police in general? There are bad cops but most of them are not and without them there would be chaos in our society. You can't be serious with your last sentence. Holy crap!
 
Old 04-16-2023, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I vote based on policy not party, not race and not self-interests.
You vote for policies that benefit you, and so does everyone else. You can pretend they are "good for the country" or "good for society", but if they didn't benefit you, you would not support them, period.

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We are no longer cave men fighting for survival against one another. We are a modern society that has become aware that we can only survive by supporting one another rather than just our own race at least that's true of many of us who don't believe in tribalism.
These two ideas are not necessarily contradictory. The United States, just like very country, is fighting for survival against China, Russia, etc. The reason governments suppress tribalism is because powerful states require the cooperation of millions if not billions of people. If the government didn't suppress tribalism and integrate/assimilate/amalgamate the population, our country would fall apart.

The natural state of man is Dunbar's number. Everything else exists by force.

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What does your video about Wall Street have to do with the common American?
The video is titled "Greed is good". The only reason people come to America, or live in America, is money(greed). Greed is what made America a superpower. Greed is the reason America exists. Why lie about it? Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists wear it as a badge of honor.
 
Old 04-16-2023, 07:02 PM
 
Location: The 719
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After a couple of recent threads, one that made it really big before being locked, I wanted to created a similar thread to hear from black people and other POC.

Do you feel that it is selfish for blacks to only advocate for ourselves and not for other persons of color? Why or why not?
How do you as a person of color relate to the plight of other POC of another background?

I realize that every person of color does not have your best interest either, however sometimes I wonder if black people should advocate for them more than we do? On the other hand, you have other persons of color who make the same accusations of "self segregation" that many persons of Anglo-Saxon descent make.

As a black person, how do you feel about things such as Black History Month? How about Hispanic Heritage Month. Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month?

How do you feel about the accusation of "race-bating" and "playing the race card"?


NOTE: I will accept commentary from any race of people as long as it's of value.
I'm white. I think Black Americans should advocate for every other minority as well such as Hispanic, Asian, etc.

I'm a White American.
 
Old 04-16-2023, 07:04 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Originally Posted by pandorafan5687 View Post
After a couple of recent threads, one that made it really big before being locked, I wanted to created a similar thread to hear from black people and other POC.

Do you feel that it is selfish for blacks to only advocate for ourselves and not for other persons of color? Why or why not?
How do you as a person of color relate to the plight of other POC of another background?

I realize that every person of color does not have your best interest either, however sometimes I wonder if black people should advocate for them more than we do? On the other hand, you have other persons of color who make the same accusations of "self segregation" that many persons of Anglo-Saxon descent make.

As a black person, how do you feel about things such as Black History Month? How about Hispanic Heritage Month. Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month?

How do you feel about the accusation of "race-bating" and "playing the race card"?


NOTE: I will accept commentary from any race of people as long as it's of value.
I think Black Americans should advocate for every other minority as well such as Hispanic, Asian, etc.

I'm a White American.
 
Old 04-16-2023, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Why do you hate the police in general? There are bad cops but most of them are not and without them there would be chaos in our society. You can't be serious with your last sentence. Holy crap!
1) I'm 100% serious.

2) There are no such thing as good cops.

3) Imagine if we woke up tomorrow and there were no police. Chaos, right? Now fast-forward one year. Still chaos?
 
Old 04-16-2023, 07:06 PM
 
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This is an old thread. But to answer this question again: HELL NO!

Black people who believe in the "rainbow coalition" bull**** are fools. None of these "people of color" groups ever advocated for black people before civil rights. They were all considered white, and were saying that they were white.

The generation of Texans that remember when a Mexican was white is still around.
 
Old 04-16-2023, 07:52 PM
 
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I think Black Americans should advocate for every other minority as well such as Hispanic, Asian, etc.

I'm a White American.
Why just other minorities? Shouldn't Blacks and every other race in this country advocate for our citizenry as a whole including whites?
 
Old 04-16-2023, 07:54 PM
 
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1) I'm 100% serious.

2) There are no such thing as good cops.

3) Imagine if we woke up tomorrow and there were no police. Chaos, right? Now fast-forward one year. Still chaos?
I feel sorry for you. I really do. I know many fine policemen some that were killed in the line of duty protecting us. So I find your remarks disgusting!

Yes, without LE the whole country would be in chaos now and in the future.
 
Old 04-16-2023, 08:00 PM
 
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You vote for policies that benefit you, and so does everyone else. You can pretend they are "good for the country" or "good for society", but if they didn't benefit you, you would not support them, period.



These two ideas are not necessarily contradictory. The United States, just like very country, is fighting for survival against China, Russia, etc. The reason governments suppress tribalism is because powerful states require the cooperation of millions if not billions of people. If the government didn't suppress tribalism and integrate/assimilate/amalgamate the population, our country would fall apart.

The natural state of man is Dunbar's number. Everything else exists by force.



The video is titled "Greed is good". The only reason people come to America, or live in America, is money(greed). Greed is what made America a superpower. Greed is the reason America exists. Why lie about it? Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists wear it as a badge of honor.
You don't know me so don't tell me how I think or how I vote at the ballot box. I'm not pretending anything. Just because people like you vote based on self-interests doesn't mean that everyone else does so just stop it right now! Greed may be behind our government and many individuals but it doesn't fit everyone, thank God! And you can pretend that it does but it doesn't make it so. You can't speak for everyone or be in anyone else's head!
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