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Old 09-08-2017, 06:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Federal laws, yes. State laws? No. The Constitution and Federal Laws supercede state laws: Supremacy Clause.

You keep ignoring that very basic fact. Why?
Employment division v Smith was regarding an Oregon state law.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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He didn't want to create a cake for the wedding of two men getting married to each other. Had the two men requested a birthday cake or celebrating a winning lottery ticket or graduating from college, he'd have made the cake. He refused to participate in creating a wedding cake per his sincerely held religious beliefs. The state infringed on his Constitutional right to refrain from expressive and symbolic speech.
Then he should not have OFFERED wedding cakes in his shop.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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Baker is going to get creamed.
Nope. Again... The baker will win for the same reason restaurants can refuse service to parties with children (age discrimination).
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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The baker will win for the same reason restaurants can refuse service to parties with children (age discrimination).
Nah. Comeon you know better. There is no protected class that covers Children in most places. But there are a lot that cover gays...including this one.

The Baker is dead and done. However his cost I gather has already been covered by you right wing fanatics.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:17 PM
 
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Employment division v Smith was regarding an Oregon state law.
Again, because you seem to not understand... the Constitution and Federal Law supercede state laws:


Did You Know It's Legal To Discriminate Against LGBT? - NPR
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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Nah. Comeon you know better. There is no protected class that covers Children in most places.
Yes, there is. Age is a protected class under the Federal Civil Rights Act.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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Again, because you seem to not understand... the Constitution and Federal Law supercede state laws:


Did You Know It's Legal To Discriminate Against LGBT? - NPR
Obviously not considering the decision in that case and many others.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:23 PM
 
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Obviously not considering the decision in that case and many others.
Obviously you're wrong because SCOTUS has agreed to hear the case.

And try this on for size... The baker will win for the same reason (but not limited to that) that restaurants can refuse service to parties with children (age discrimination).
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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Yes, there is. Age is a protected class under the Federal Civil Rights Act.
When if comes to employment and federally funded programs. I'm pretty sure that the restaurant is ok if it doesn't hire kids though.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/di...nation/agedisc
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Yes, there is. Age is a protected class under the Federal Civil Rights Act.
Educate me. As far as I know age deals only with employment. But go for it.
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