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Could be as you say. Going through hearings and contributions on both sides of the aisle is not the problem. McCain ran and was elected on repeal and replace. He has no intention of doing that, and as such, he lied to his constituents. Not the first time though. Perhaps he does not care now because he is dying. Even in the article posted herein he bashes Democrats for shoving through a terrible bill.
Setting McCain aside, in the meantime, premiums have and still are skyrocketing, 35,000 people in 45 counties have no insurer to select from, 3 million people have only one insurer to select from, the coverage is so bad for some that they are not getting the medical treatment they need. Democrats have "set the bar" too low. They think just because everybody has to have a policy of insurance that they are successful. Wrong. Obamacare needs to be completely repealed. It always has been and always will be very bad law.
"The mere existence of an insurance policy available for sale is a pretty low bar. It's like saying a hotel succeeded because it was actually built, never mind that no one came because its rooms were priced too high for the value provided."
Trade one evil bureaucracy for another? Of course not my question to you is why do you think one is better than the other?
A truly free market would largely eliminate the need for, or lessen the reliance on, health insurance.
Both organize a pool of cost sharing individuals that could be faced with healthcare needs beyond their means. One skims profit and denies coverage to make even more profit. The other does not profit and does not deny healthcare based on profit. Can you guess which is which?
Could be as you say. Going through hearings and contributions on both sides of the aisle is not the problem. McCain ran and was elected on repeal and replace. He has no intention of doing that, and as such, he lied to his constituents. Not the first time though. Perhaps he does not care now because he is dying. Even in the article posted herein he bashes Democrats for shoving through a terrible bill.
Setting McCain aside, in the meantime, premiums have and still are skyrocketing, 35,000 people in 45 counties have no insurer to select from, 3 million people have only one insurer to select from, the coverage is so bad for some that they are not getting the medical treatment they need. Democrats have "set the bar" too low. They think just because everybody has to have a policy of insurance that they are successful. Wrong. Obamacare needs to be completely repealed. It always has been and always will be very bad law.
"The mere existence of an insurance policy available for sale is a pretty low bar. It's like saying a hotel succeeded because it was actually built, never mind that no one came because its rooms were priced too high for the value provided."
Being in favor of repeal and replace doesn't mean someone should automatically support whatever quickly drawn up legislation someone comes up with.
Of all the crictism, McCain has gotten in this threaad and others about voting against the skinny bill and being against this bill, no one has actually offered up ant reasons of why either bill should be supported.
Being in favor of repeal and replace doesn't mean someone should automatically support whatever quickly drawn up legislation someone comes up with.
Of all the crictism, McCain has gotten in this threaad and others about voting against the skinny bill and being against this bill, no one has actually offered up ant reasons of why either bill should be supported.
Absurd comment. Uninformed people make things up and don't discuss the issue.
Costs went up faster than inflation even though technology lowers costs in EVERY field. The best part about your factless post, is that healthcare costs started to go up faster than inflation starting in the mid 1960's because of medicare and medicaid. Don't let those facts get in the way. Make sure you ignore them.
No I do it before hand. Since when are those the only 2 medical problems which btw are usually treated by first responders. Your post was nothing more than a factless emotional rant.
The cost of "free market" medical care has been rising even before Medicare. The statement, "healthcare costs rose faster than inflation" is patently false.
BTW, your first responders are your neighbors with limited training and equipment.
You don't have to answer for me. I already know that.
It has already failed. What part of sky rocketing costs and lower quality since government got involved in the healthcare industry don't you get?
So does making sense when replying to a post. Try it.
You called McCain a scumbag, presumably becasue he was voting no on this bill. If you were calling him a scumbag for a different reason, then you should have made that more clear.
McCain is voting no on a bad bill. That's what's being discussed; the new healthcare bill.
If you're mad that McCain didn't introduce a bill that cuts all public healthcare, that's valid. But there's a long list of Senators who you should be angry at if this is the case. And maybe you are, but this does kind of make it odd to call out one in particular, espeically since you picked the one who's only voting on something, not proposing it.
Being in favor of repeal and replace doesn't mean someone should automatically support whatever quickly drawn up legislation someone comes up with.
Of all the crictism, McCain has gotten in this threaad and others about voting against the skinny bill and being against this bill, no one has actually offered up ant reasons of why either bill should be supported.
of course they are not, because they are not interested in healthcare or how the bill might help or hurt the public. what they care about is sticking it to someone not them and supporting the team they picked.
Trumpers are mostly the exact opposite of policy voters. These are folks who are simply angry and looking for payback. if they wanted policies that would improve their lives they would have supported and voted for Hillary and dems.
Anyone earning under 200k a year and expecting the Rs will make their economic life better has not been paying attention. the Rs will be funneling the monies to the top . And unless you are already there don't expect them to help you in any way shape or form. They will be giving money to us coastal elites.
That's another argument entirely and has litt me to do with McCain as it likely wouldn't get 40 votes, nor does it have anything to do with the current bill being discussed.
It wasnt set up to fail but to assist the 30-40 million people who had no healthcare due to cost or eligibility. It was a given that government subsidies were going to be a factor in procuring healthcare for the millions who didnt have or qualify for healthcare.IMO the republican attitude of "why should my tax dollars pay for your healthcare" wasnt considered when the plan was enacted as the whole idea was to enact a nation wide team effort on healthcare a sign of societal progression to help those less fortunate,however it wasnt meant to be as Republicans did everything they could to destroy the program, they now are about to get what they so desire.
I hope republicans remember what they wished for when they get booted off their insurance programs or trumpcare fails them in time of need.
Actually what was considered and not wholly thought out was the fallacy that healthy young people would sign up in droves to pay the costs of those who got heavy subsidies and used the heck out of their insurance.
They were wayyyyy wrong with that thinking.
Now then , you want to talk about people who have no healthcare NOW because of cost? The ONLY people who benefitted from Obamacare are those that don't pay full cost or at all for it.
Everyone else got screwed.
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my question to you is why do you think one is better than the other?
Interesting Article
