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how did he carry all these guns and ammo up to his room?
by himself?
In luggage/ trunks, likely transported by a bell hop on a cart.
Convention/ Show exhibitors tend to travel with a lot of crap.
It would not likely strike hotel employees as unusual. There are cameras everywhere in LV.
It's been reported hotel employees were in/ out of his large multi- room suite throughout his 4 night stay- Minimally, cleaning people to make up the bed and turn it down and freshen up the baths. He may have ordered from room service, too. It has been reported these employees did not observe anything unusual in his suite.
He actually is being realistic. These things can happen anywhere. When you go to the grocery store or out to a department store shopping, or just taking a walk in the park, some whack-nut can just open fire on people and can kill or injure you. That's a fact of life. And you're right about not being able to put a stop to it. You can "try" your gun laws (which will never go away), but that's not going to prevent criminals from engaging in illegal activities. They've already decided to commit murder. I don't think they're going to have a heavy conscience about breaking the ban on guns law.
The only chance people have in this sad world is to arm themselves and learn how to use a gun. It's a sad fact of life that people are just freakin crazy (and they're not just going to stop being crazy. That is a nice wish that will never come true). But honestly, if just about everyone was walking around with some sort of weapon strapped to them, most of these morons are going to be shot down within a few seconds of taking their first shot. And then--slowly perhaps--they're going to start realizing it's not that great of an idea to do. It definitely won't be as thrilling, knocking out maybe one or two people, maybe just injuring them. It won't be such a fascination for copycat killers.
Sorry you may not like the facts, but there is no other way around this.
You are wrong about that of course, but it's OK. Absolutely the level of gun violence could be brought down across the board with national gun regulation. It would take decades for that to have much effect of course, because of the saturation level of weaponry we have right now. But it doesn't matter because we don't really want that to happen. Ultimately it is our lust for violence that will keep the firearm industry in business and the blood flowing in the streets. Because, every dollar of profit is a good dollar right? After all it is our "right" to proliferate guns and promote firearms at every level of society.
The Las Vegas shooter had no criminal record. His ability to get 42 high powered firearms is what made him a criminal.
What the poster you replied to was trying to explain was that if the gun he wanted were illegal, he would have found a way to get it anyway. Drugs are illegal, right? But criminals still obtain them. Do you actually think that guns wouldn't be the same way?? I sure hope not, because that is quite disturbing.
As I explained previously, once someone decides to commit murder, they're not going to be deterred by a ban on firearms. I'm not sure what wiring someone has to have in their mind in order to come up with the idea that they would. It is just not very... realistic I guess? Let's take a very similar problem here: the strict control of narcotics. Now, it is thought to be very idealistic to not have these drugs abused, is it not? I really, really hope that people realize this: the drug abusers still get them. Drug abusers have no problem getting access to these medications. Do you know who has problems getting them? The people who actually need them.
Now, I will ask again: Do you think this will be any different with guns? If you actually think it will... I'm not sure what to say. That is just a sad state of affairs.
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The Las Vegas shooter had no criminal record. His ability to get 42 high powered firearms is what made him a criminal.
Exactly, every day in America someone is made into a NEW criminal, due to their actions with a gun. There is a first time for everything. Who's to say that we won't have more first time shooters like this again, that will commit no other crime in their entire life, but because of their easy access to military level firearms can in one strike take or effect hundreds of lives like this in their one in only strike.
FOX had on the Forensic Psychiatrist, an expert in mass shootings that worked the Republican baseball field shooting and asked him his thoughts on possible motives for this event.
He explained several reasons for shootings like this and what differentiates them from each other one of them being age.
He said this will come down to one of two things, most likely political in nature just like the baseball field shootings...
You are wrong about that of course, but it's OK. Absolutely the level of gun violence could be brought down across the board with national gun regulation. It would take decades for that to have much effect of course, because of the saturation level of weaponry we have right now. But it doesn't matter because we don't really want that to happen. Ultimately it is our lust for violence that will keep the firearm industry in business and the blood flowing in the streets. Because, every dollar of profit is a good dollar right?
There were probably as many or more guns prior to 1999 when the Columbine shooting captivated this nation.
What has changed? Moral decay - hollywood, liberals, leftist media, leftist politicians.
The only thing that has changed is this country's moral compass has just about cracked. The only one to blame for the sickening atrocity two nights ago are the people who push and profit off of seeing America's moral compass rot.
how lax are the gun laws in Illinois? there's this thing called transportation, you know, cars, trains, etc. people are able to leave a city! they aren't stuck there, unable to get out. they can go to another city in their state, or the next state over and get guns. does this really have to be explained to you?
that's why a comparison of city to state is ILLOGICAL!
If they weren't eligible to purchase a firearm in Chicago they aren't anywhere else. The ONLY way they could get one would be by a straw purchase where someone else buys it and gives/sells it to them. So, it's already illegal.
How do you stop that without an outright ban on selling all firearms? You can't because someone could still sell one on the black market.
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