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Old 01-06-2018, 11:10 PM
 
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Not just because of their name, but policies, like government control of industry, and oppressive restriction of speech, firearm ownership, centralized, collective government, party power, etc.

Maybe read some actual history?
Nope. Nazism is a totalitarian far right wing regime.

And if you would follow your own advice on reading history, you would know that after WW1 (before nazis) Germany had a total ban on gun ownership, then some sort of registry (again before Nazis), after Nazis came to power they completely relaxed the gun laws for everybody(most German citizens), except the "enemies of the state" (do you want to guess who was on this list?)
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:56 AM
 
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Nope. Nazism is a totalitarian far right wing regime.
Yikes. No. Only those ignorant of history and of Hitler's actual quotes and policies assert that.

This is just a start...

Socialism and Fascism


Here's just some of what Hitler and the Nazis did:

Banned guns. Left-wing
Rioting, Vandalizing, Looting (Kristallnacht). Left-wing (just look at Ferguson, and Portland after the 2016 election)
Concentration camps. Stalin's Gulags. Left-wing

Many more parallels, some outlined here, with 190 citations:

Comparison of Nazism and Stalinism
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Old 01-07-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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Yikes. No. Only those ignorant of history and of Hitler's actual quotes and policies assert that.

This is just a start...

Socialism and Fascism


Here's just some of what Hitler and the Nazis did:

Banned guns. Left-wing
Rioting, Vandalizing, Looting (Kristallnacht). Left-wing (just look at Ferguson, and Portland after the 2016 election)
Concentration camps. Stalin's Gulags. Left-wing

Many more parallels, some outlined here, with 190 citations:

Comparison of Nazism and Stalinism
Looked in the mirror lately?

Yes, there are common features because BOTH Stalinism and Nazism are totalitarian regimes. One is extreme left wing, the other is extreme RIGHT wing. End of story.
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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Looked in the mirror lately?

Yes, there are common features because BOTH Stalinism and Nazism are totalitarian regimes. One is extreme left wing, the other is extreme RIGHT wing. End of story.
Concentration Camp. Gulag.

What are YOU missing?
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Concentration Camp. Gulag.

What are YOU missing?
Yes far right and far left are both horrible
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Yes far right and far left are both horrible
What makes you think a Concentration Camp is the opposite of a Gulag?
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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What makes you think a Concentration Camp is the opposite of a Gulag?
Does attempting to equate fascism with leftism a way the right winger can remove all moral culpability for the nazis actions? Its ok if the Nazis are right wing you don't have to support them.
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Not just because of their name, but policies, like government control of industry, and oppressive restriction of speech, firearm ownership, centralized, collective government, party power, etc.

Maybe read some actual history?
I have most historians who are credible agree the nazis are right wing they are not allowed to write lies or propaganda their professional reputation is at stake.
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Old 01-07-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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Does attempting to equate fascism with leftism a way the right winger can remove all moral culpability for the nazis actions? Its ok if the Nazis are right wing you don't have to support them.
Stalin, Hitler, and the Nazis are culpable for their own acts. There is no substantial difference between Stalin's Gulags and Hitler's Concentration Camps.
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Old 01-07-2018, 11:20 AM
 
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There is no substantial difference between Stalin's Gulags and Hitler's Concentration Camps.
Very true yet the ideologies which they are based on are very different.
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