Transgender bathrooms aren't transgender (support, status, percentage, kids)

[geekigurl]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

That's not ID's they are checking!!!!

*grabs pepper spray*

[Lieneke]

Originally Posted by geekigurl

How do you determine this? Stop people and check "under the hood"? ID checks? Some type of body scanner outside the bathroom door?

There is so much more to distinguishing men from women than what's under the skirt - obviously. I think it's particularly silly that men think they can wear make up, put on a dress and heels and pass for a woman.

[Logicist027]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

Because your logic is ignoring the fact that an all-gender bathroom is for EVERYONE, not just for transgendered people.

You still don't get the logic. This is simply the ridiculous. All-gender bathrooms are the SAME THING as unisex bathrooms. There is no difference between the two. No one was debating the validity of unisex bathrooms before or even now. If anything, people were saying that transgender people should use the unisex bathrooms. So simply changing the name only gives tacit approval to the people who were opposing transgender bathrooms.

For people who don't have common sense let me break down the bathroom types.

1. Unisex/all-gender/all-people/whatever you want to call it. It's a single stalled bathroom that anyone can use. People use one at a time.

2. Single-stalled specific sex bathroom. These are a single stalled bathroom with a sign on the door for a specific sex. One person at a time, but presumably male or female only.

3. Multiple occupancy specific sex bathrooms. The large bathrooms with lots of people in them. Specific sex, male or female only.

Clearly if people can't understand this, the entire debate was surrounding the multiple occupancy bathrooms. CLEARLY. If you don't get that I don't know what to tell you. All of the arguments for or against are obviously only relevant if others are in the bathroom at the same time. So when people make these ridiculous arguments about people being able to use a single stalled bathroom, the point is moot. We can call bathrooms at peoples house, the port-a-potty at a public park or anything that doesn't denote sex a unisex/all-gender bathroom.

Even the single-stalled specific sex bathroom wouldn't be the same. At worst you could simply call it a nuisance to some people for the idea that there would have been someone of the same sex walking in it. Maybe a man would pee on the toilet seat in the women's room or something like that. But the main issues of privacy and protection are not even relevant.

I was thinking that people were referring to a fourth type of bathroom.

4. Multiple occupancy/unisex/all-gender bathroom.

Instead people delivered more of the first type. That's why I think all-gender bathrooms are a joke. They are not in any way qualitatively different from the types of bathrooms we already had.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by Lieneke

There is so much more to distinguishing men from women than what's under the skirt - obviously. I think it's particularly silly that men think they can wear make up, put on a dress and heels and pass for a woman.

You obviously have never been to Thailand.

[Mikala43]

Whatever you want to call them: there can be one room with multiple stalls that all genders can use at the same time, together

[boxus]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

Whatever you want to call them: there can be one room with multiple stalls that all genders can use at the same time, together

There is not a single woman I know that would use a bathroom where a man can go to a stall next to her.

[foundapeanut]

^^^Depends on how bad I have to go! But I'm married not single.

Sounds like fear more than antyhing else.

[Lieneke]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

You obviously have never been to Thailand.

Are you suggesting that people in Thailand have to look under the skirts of their neighbors to discern whether they are male or female, that people in Thailand are androgynous, that foreigners have difficulty identifying gender of Asians, that all public toilets in Thailand are unisex?

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by boxus

There is not a single woman I know that would use a bathroom where a man can go to a stall next to her.

Yes, a few here on this thread have said so. Seriously - why care?

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by Lieneke

Are you suggesting that people in Thailand have to look under the skirts of their neighbors to discern whether they are male or female, that people in Thailand are androgynous, that foreigners have difficulty identifying gender of Asians, that all public toilets in Thailand are unisex?

I am stating that Thai boys make beautiful Thai women. You cannot tell from them just walking around.

Heck, I'm a petite feminine woman, and they would make ME look masculine. /lol