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Knee jerk reactions that will do nothing to stop someone from shooting up a school. If someone really wants to shoot up a school, these things will not stop them.
Or commonsense gun control could include charging your neighbor for his or negligence in keeping a large quantity of guns where they would be accessible to a thief.
My gun control would include someone like that - a proven risk of being negligent with his guns - prohibited from ever owning guns again. Owning guns should be considered a privilege that he relinquished with his behavior.
Wow, isn't that victim-blaming?
That neighbor had his or her house broken into, by criminals, his or her property stolen, by criminals, and you want to string up the person who DIDN'T commit those crimes? That's effed up. Kind of like criminally charging a rape victim for public nudity violations...
I sure hope if your car is ever stolen and the thief kills someone with it you feel the same way about "negligence."
Regarding the Parkland kids' complaints about their school feeling like a jail, if all those security measures save *just* one life, it's worth it. Never again. Whatever it takes. Hashtag soundbite slogan.
What did they think was going to happen? That the U.S. Government was going to wave a wand and all the millions of guns in our country were going to magically disappear?
And how exactly do you stop a thief from stealing guns? Even if in a safe they can be stolen. A bit more work to do so, but it can still be done.
Drug addicts steal drugs from pharmacies and hospitals. Should we ban them from ever having drugs on site again after such a theft?
Many guns though, probably most, are not stolen from safes, they are stolen because they are left out in cars and in the home, not locked up or anything, not even hidden from plain view.
Hell, there are way too many instances of "three year old accidentally shot one year old" going around as it is.
Or commonsense gun control could include charging your neighbor for his or negligence in keeping a large quantity of guns where they would be accessible to a thief.
My gun control would include someone like that - a proven risk of being negligent with his guns - prohibited from ever owning guns again. Owning guns should be considered a privilege that he relinquished with his behavior.
A constitutional right is by definition not a privilege.
These students can't have it both ways. Do they "just want to feel safe at school" or not? Is the truth that they really just want people's rights taken away?
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Or commonsense gun control could include charging your neighbor for his or negligence in keeping a large quantity of guns where they would be accessible to a thief.
My gun control would include someone like that - a proven risk of being negligent with his guns - prohibited from ever owning guns again. Owning guns should be considered a privilege that he relinquished with his behavior.
If someone steals the property of someone else and uses that property to harm someone, the owner is responsible? So, if someone steals your car and kills someone, you should go to jail for murder?
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I bet you also blame the woman for wearing a skirt when and if she gets raped, right?
Many guns though, probably most, are not stolen from safes, they are stolen because they are left out in cars and in the home, not locked up or anything, not even hidden from plain view.
Hell, there are way too many instances of "three year old accidentally shot one year old" going around as it is.
Exactly.
Victim blaming would be if I said someone deserved to be robbed *because* they left out 8 guns where they could be stolen. That isn't what I said. But I do think someone is criminally negligent if they leave guns out in the open where they can be easily stolen, or even more tragically, accidentally used by a child which is something that occurs with horrifying frequency.
And if my car was stolen because I left it unlocked in the driveway with the key in the ignition, then yes, I might have some culpability for a crime committed with it.
As for the Constitutional right to own guns, it might surprise some of you to know that the unfettered right to own guns that people think the 2nd Amendment provides is a judicial construct that is only a decade old.
The school district is making an effort to protect the kids and keep something like this from happening again. Granted, clear backpacks don't do MUCH, but they may make it easier to spot those that are carrying weapons. ID badges, a step to ensure that only those that belong in the school can get there. Additional armed security, esp State Police rather than Coward County Sheriff? Probably good, but won't last long due to the cost involved.
Allowing teachers and administrators that have concealed carry permits and training to bring a means of defending themselves to school? Far more effective, less costly and non-intrusive. But not politically accepted in an area populated with left-leaning residents. Maybe some good can come from this and it becomes the opening to get concealed carry in more schools, in more states.
Victim blaming would be if I said someone deserved to be robbed *because* they left out 8 guns where they could be stolen. That isn't what I said. But I do think someone is criminally negligent if they leave guns out in the open where they can be easily stolen, or even more tragically, accidentally used by a child which is something that occurs with horrifying frequency.
And if my car was stolen because I left it unlocked in the driveway with the key in the ignition, then yes, I might have some culpability for a crime committed with it.
As for the Constitutional right to own guns, it might surprise some of you to know that the unfettered right to own guns that people think the 2nd Amendment provides is a judicial construct that is only a decade old.
No, I was ignoring your disgusting analogy and I'm now blocking you so don't bother to reply.
... and this is why as a country we are going to hell in a handbasket.
Block the opinions you don't like, de-friend the people with views you oppose and surround yourself with like minded individuals who only toe the party line.
Good times.
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