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They also freely savaged one another, the strong enslaved the weak, the strong took from the weak. Yeah we have tried that system. Most people just didn't like it.
Note that he relies on citing "no proof" for the assured nasty condition of his hypothetical libertarian society, a society for which there is "no proof" as ever existing in the modern world because its implementation is always brutal and short, and almost always unintentional because of what comes with that.
Where it isn't short (but is still brutal), in Africa, he says that "doesn't count".
"Never real libertarianism". Amirite?
The exact same excuse as the traditional communists use to justify communism in the modern day. They use the exact same reasoning: there is/was still a State and thus our Utopia never was. Isn't that a coincidence?
Because libertarianism shares the exact same social goals with communism: to eradicate the bonds that create nationality (the State).
In fact, this is communism's primary goal (it eradicates the naturally forming State, arising from true culturally close community, that defends the populace and installs a foreign run State that seeks to enslave it).
In Russia, they murdered the Monarchy and in spite of having promised "no State", instead a legitimately repressive government took he Monarchy's place and kept the people in a position of de facto slavery for decades - during which it murdered tens of millions.
The same thing would immediately happen in any environment where there is a government vacuum and significant population. You can have your State, or someone else's, but a State you will have. The only choice is whether it will be yours or another tribe's.
Which is why libertarianism is such a tried and true effective gatekeeping mechanism against the nationalist Right for the benefit of the communist Left. It demands the same social result that leads to a government vacuum.
Save yourself from running around in circles with the new libertarian crew here who are essentially just willing noise in political discussions that didn't invite them. Their contributions essentially always amount to inserting advertisements for their political beliefs in contexts that don't remotely touch on those beliefs.
It goes something like this:
Forum: Hey, that Clinton lady seems shady.
Libertarians: Because the State is evil!
It's exhausting because its informationally noisy, and comes off like advertising. Libertarians might no all be killed immediately in a Stateless environment, but the annoying ones sure as heck will be . Give us all a much needed break.
The reality is, not much will happen until 2020. Even if Trump goes before then (which is looking more likely every day) we will still have Pence, and he will not do much to get himself booted from the job. So, we will not see a real change until 2020.
The next guy/gal is going to have a lot to do to restore sanity and stability to the WH. These past 400+ days have been the most destructive, dysfunctional in history. Even some of the very worst Presidents we have had have not caused as much turmoil and confusion as the clown now sitting in that seat. The next person is going to have to unite us and actually accomplish some of the things con man Trump promised, but can not fulfill.
It's a mess, and the country is so very divided right now. We are at each other's throats and our views are so very different from one another . It will take a long time to heal the ills brought on by this current idiot.
I don't know. I kind of hope the "Trump Boil" spreads to the nearby areas and more of the same pop up. I'm quite liking this non Republican/Democrat/Politician way of doing things.
Note that he relies on citing "no proof" for the assured nasty condition of his hypothetical libertarian society, a society for which there is "no proof" as ever existing in the modern world because its implementation is always brutal and short, and almost always unintentional because of what comes with that.
Where it isn't short (but is still brutal), in Africa, he says that "doesn't count".
"Never real libertarianism". Amirite?
The exact same excuse as the traditional communists use to justify communism in the modern day. They use the exact same reasoning: there is/was still a State and thus our Utopia never was. Isn't that a coincidence?
Because libertarianism shares the exact same social goals with communism: to eradicate the bonds that create nationality (the State).
In fact, this is communism's primary goal (it eradicates the naturally forming State, arising from true culturally close community, that defends the populace and installs a foreign run State that seeks to enslave it).
In Russia, they murdered the Monarchy and in spite of having promised "no State", instead a legitimately repressive government took he Monarchy's place and kept the people in a position of de facto slavery for decades - during which it murdered tens of millions.
The same thing would immediately happen in any environment where there is a government vacuum and significant population. You can have your State, or someone else's, but a State you will have. The only choice is whether it will be yours or another tribe's.
Which is why libertarianism is such a tried and true effective gatekeeping mechanism against the nationalist Right for the benefit of the communist Left. It demands the same social result that leads to a government vacuum.
Save yourself from running around in circles with the new libertarian crew here who are essentially just willing noise in political discussions that didn't invite them. Their contributions essentially always amount to inserting advertisements for their political beliefs in contexts that don't remotely touch on those beliefs.
It goes something like this:
Forum: Hey, that Clinton lady seems shady.
Libertarians: Because the State is evil!
It's exhausting because its informationally noisy, and comes off like advertising. Libertarians might no all be killed immediately in a Stateless environment, but the annoying ones sure as heck will be . Give us all a much needed break.
Libertarianism in moderation is not a bad thing. Just as some socialist programs are good and some government regulations are good. Too much of anything becomes a poison. WE have seen this in both the GOP and the Democratic Party.
The hard left feels that Big brother knows best and is uniquely suited to making life decisions for us all. They believe that big brother is fair and should be allowed to manage every waking moment of our daily lives.
As we have seen in both communism and socialism, the 1% remain. That doesn't change and won't. corruption is power and power corrupts absolutely.
The GOP is the first kissing cousin to the democrats but they will never admit it. Both have the same goals. Divide and conquer. Control the masses through regulations. Education designed to dumb us down and blind trust in the Fed and authority.
I look forward to the rebadged Republican Party, one that is more inclusive and less ideological.
When will you leftist acknowledge that it is your side of the ideological spectrum that has gone hard left, not the (R's) going hard right?
It just seems that way to you because you are so far in left field, anything moderate comes across as radical right.
Don't believe me, fine. Look it up for yourself going back to Bill Clinton and his & the DNC's platform/policies from just the 1990's compared with the (D's) today.
Well, if it's anything like 1974, there will be a great sigh of relief.
That will soon be followed by a lingering depression that will continue for at least a year afterward.
Those who voted for Nixon didn't want to talk about it, but were angry and feeling betrayed, and those who didn't vote for Nixon didn't want to talk about it because it would set off those who did.
President Ford, in retrospect, did as good as he could do putting the nation back on course, but no one was happy with him. No one was happy about anything much that followed after the exhilaration of seeing Watergate finally come to an end wore off.
Watergate didn't end with Nixon's departure. There were still a lot of convictions that followed, and the 'smoking gun', the solid evidence Nixon feared the most, only came after he was gone. The affair continued to dominate America for the rest of the year and well into the next one.
Nixon was as divisive a President as Trump is, or even more so. The two men have a lot in common. The biggest difference between them is Nixon was a real statesman, and he led the nation with a firm grip on his office and Congress. Love him or hate him- no one could say he wasn't a strong leader.
Trump is not. When the chips are down, he waffles back and forth, tips his hand far too often, and brags far too much. All big weaknesses of character in a President.
Nixon's staff was as hard as a stone wall; that's why the term came into use. They were a very hard bunch to crack in Watergate, and that's why that investigation took as long as it did.
Trump's staff is like a bowl of warm Jell-O. They are all just as squishy as their boss, so if and when things finally break open, I don't expect what follows will be nearly as long and drawn out as Watergate was. Trump will go much, much sooner than Nixon did.
All of this is true. But, Nixon didn't have American Pravda, aka Faux Newz to spread his propaganda and brainwash 25 to 30% of the population into believing in him.
Since Dems have now criminalized the Political process, we get to go after your candidate for all the corruption they probably did sometime in their life.
China, China, China.
That's the way I see it. After Trump's 8 years, the Republicans should use the FBI and all of our security agencies to criminalize being Demonic Rat.
Democrats are dysfunctional and broke. They'll never recover on a national level.
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. Give us all a much needed break.
