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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 05-09-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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What's immoral or unethical about enforcing our immigration laws?

Nothing. The immorality is splitting children from parents. Other countries seem to be able to deal with this, but the USA can't? Other countries, like Jordan, not a Christian nation, but a Muslim one. Other countries like Canada, not a Christian nation, but secular one.

Wonder why the USA can't figure out how to be compassionate? Religion perhaps? Or something else?
 
Old 05-09-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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Nothing. The immorality is splitting children from parents. Other countries seem to be able to deal with this, but the USA can't? Other countries, like Jordan, not a Christian nation, but a Muslim one. Other countries like Canada, not a Christian nation, but secular one.

Wonder why the USA can't figure out how to be compassionate? Religion perhaps? Or something else?
The families are choosing to be split. They know the potential results of illegally entering, so it is the families making this choice.

If I rob a bank today and get caught, I will be separated from my family when I am in prison; do you think that is fair?

The US is very compassionate, it allows many immigrants in a year, a lot of my family has immigrated including my wife.
 
Old 05-09-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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The families are choosing to be split. They know the potential results of illegally entering, so it is the families making this choice.

If I rob a bank today and get caught, I will be separated from my family when I am in prison; do you think that is fair?

The US is very compassionate, it allows many immigrants in a year, a lot of my family has immigrated including my wife.
You didn't answer how Canada, Germany and Jordan can keep families together, but the USA won't. Why do they have compassion and the USA doesn't?
 
Old 05-09-2018, 05:29 PM
 
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You didn't answer how Canada, Germany and Jordan can keep families together, but the USA won't. Why do they have compassion and the USA doesn't?

And you never answered why you're so interested if you live in Canada.
 
Old 05-09-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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You didn't answer how Canada, Germany and Jordan can keep families together, but the USA won't. Why do they have compassion and the USA doesn't?
What does that have to do with our borders and immigration laws. This is a strawman.
 
Old 05-09-2018, 05:48 PM
 
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You didn't answer how Canada, Germany and Jordan can keep families together, but the USA won't. Why do they have compassion and the USA doesn't?
As I stated, the US has lots of compassion, the US admits many immigrants a year, and remains one of the top destinations in the world for legal, and illegal, immigrants. If the potential immigrants, legal and illegal, do not like it, they are free to go somewhere else.

You did not respond to me; I rob a bank, I go to prison, thus separated from my family; where is the compassion? Do you think I should not be in prison?

The US needs to step up and stop not enforcing its immigration laws, and it starts first with deterring people from breaking them in the first place. It is not even remotely close to fair for all those legal immigrants who did abide the laws, and many more who are waiting or who have been denied immigration/entry into the US. And yes, I have several family members to this day who have been constantly denied a tourist visa for visiting the US.
 
Old 05-09-2018, 05:56 PM
 
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Here's an article that shows how many countries are building or have built walls to keep out illegals.

How 65 countries have erected security walls on their borders | Daily Mail Online

Oh, and as for Jordan...they're building a wall fully funded by us.
 
Old 05-09-2018, 06:18 PM
 
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And you never answered why you're so interested if you live in Canada.
I am a humanitarian, and that has no borders. I care what happens to humans, no matter where they live. I find it incongruous that the country (the USA), which wants to present itself as a champion of human rights and freedom, continues to have laws an policies which cause it to have the highest prison population in the world (more than China which has 3 times the population), and the highest by far per capita prison population.

Do you really think the USA is that much more prone to criminality, or do you think maybe the laws are wrong? Think about this... dictatorships world wide have less people in prison. Never mind other first world countries.

What's wrong with US laws? Or is it less humanitarian?
 
Old 05-09-2018, 06:26 PM
 
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What's wrong with the laws is we are not enforcing them. Then potential illegal aliens would know that they have will have a very hard time entering and living within the country. This way they won't risk putting themselves and children in danger of being separated or worse.
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